JNRowe
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Comment · 5 months ago
If you want an out of the box test then playing with river-classic¹ is probably a good place to start. It gives a feel for where you can go, without having to put too much effort in.
For example, it has pluggable layouts where instead of pulling in a lua module(such as awful.layout) in awesome you'll run an external process which handles events. You can even run multiple managers and switch between them with bindings, or write a custom one to scratch that itch. If you're happy with just awful's .suit.tile.right and .suit.max then basically any backend will do.
This is why it feels like a reasonable path off awesomewm to me. I always considered awesomewm to be the WMConstructionKit, and while river changes how you interact there is still a nice route to extensibility. The newer direction even more so than the -classic offshoot.
Comment · 5 months ago
I settled on river¹ after a couple of decades with awesomewm. Tiling and tagging work in a way you'd expect coming from awesomewm, but nothing else does. I made my mind up because having to use workspaces and manual tiling is a far harder sell than implementing the functionality I want on top of a decent base.
If anything it reminds me more of the experience with using awesome v2(before lua); you generate a config file for the base WM, and then build up external tooling to drive it how you see fit. The experience has been quite pleasant, but I do enjoy twiddling.
¹ https://codeberg.org/river/river
Edit: I just checked my dotfiles. Awesome went in on 2008-06-09, and river on 2024-06-30. Happy and largely uneventful two years on river.
Comment · 5 months ago
There are plenty of examples where menu display and help texts can be toggled.
For example, aptitude has `Aptitude::UI::Menubar-Autohide` and midnight commander has options in the layout menu to disable menu/buttons/etc. That way beginners get to learn through discovery, and may later choose to switch to calling the menu/action with a keypress. Both of those respond to "standard" F1 for help too.
Would I prefer emacs M-x and C-h style interaction in mc? Yeah, probably. I'm used to it everywhere else(such as zsh). However, as a long term user I can execute basically all the functions even though I've long since disabled the buttons, menus and hints.
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