EvilTrout
Joined 17 years ago
Joined 17 years ago
They both started this after the Witness came out, 10 years ago.
Since then, guess how many games Muratori has shipped? 0. (He cancelled his announced game.)
Guess how many Blow has shipped? 0 so far, but it sounds close now.
These engineers spent their time ragging on other developers for slinging bad code and doing things horribly, meanwhile those developers were shipping games and apps and all sorts of other stuff.
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I'm not sure about those stats you posted from 3 years ago since they aren't using the same `rake stats` numbers that are built in to Rails. Discourse's Rails app is currently 63k SLOC not including tests.
On my relatively fast computer booting takes 4s without bootsnap and 2.5s with it, which is a nice quality of life improvement.
I've spent a lot of time trying to tell people that all the stuff in Ember is there for a reason; for example, you're going to need a router, you're going to need support for controllers, etc. I still feel strongly that if your app is large and serious you are going to need that stuff.
But.
A lot of people just want to jump in and start building. React's immense popularity has shown the value in creating a view layer framework without all the extra stuff. It's great for onboarding new developers since there is less surface area to familiarize yourself with, and you can add in extra stuff (work your way towards full Ember) as you go.
It also comes with the added benefit of being able to add small components to a page without running the whole thing as an application, which is a use case Ember was not so great at before.
Overall I think it's a great announcement.
In the screencast it shows that when you deploy you just get a javascript file for your components that should be super small.