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ya know, I just don't agree with anyone who posts here and uses the word "customer." Yea, Bob was a customer but he is also a human being. Less we forget this and remember we are working with other people then you don't need to worry about "snowflakes" or whether you're customers are happy or not. Just treat everyone you come in contact with with respect & regardless of how you met (business or otherwise) and this world would just be a much better place.

I think this is a non sequitur. (IMO) the stuff about "people are colorblind until society teaches them otherwise" is ridiculous, so you put these kids in an environment with no yellow children? Of course they are going to see yellow children as strange- they haven't had the opportunity to interact and learn otherwise. It doesn't have to have anything to do with racist comments from their parents.

Labeling anyone of any color is racicst period. There is only one race called the Human Race!

If everyone recognized this and stopped describing one another in terms of colors, we could end fucking bullshit!

I'm against this. They are trying to impose rules (threading concepts) into the C++ language where it ought not to be. Threads are platform specific (ARM, Intel) albeit with the same idea but underpinnings are different. They are arguing about thread local variables and concurrency issues in the context of the C++ language or standard libraries when really these things are dependent upon the application being written. We don't need all this garbage in the language and there are plenty of class libraries out there to deal with common hardware platforms already that do quite well. Trying to drive a design pattern from high atop ivory towers is stupid and you would think these people would have learned this by now.

I second your Superbly put. I cannot upvote this enough too. I've been doing C and C++ for over 17 years from embedded up to CRUD accounting type apps.... Spot on my friend, spot on!

I guess this means every code compiler is in jeopardy now too.

really an optical illusion? I heard two different flows of water splashing in the bucket which I would not expect if it was just an optical trick.

I'd pledge the full $200K if they would take on C++ immediately. I am so sick and tired of IDEs that suck at delivering solid C++ coding environment. The best tool I've found for the job, to date, is Source Insight.

"My theory is that only idiots get caught"

No, only idiots do this to begin with.

The real hero of the story is the guy or organized the surprise flash mob! Most people would say that was cute and move on, but this guy stopped and took an interest in this kid and in making him feel good about himself. We need more people like that guy!

oh no it's not worth discussing. The discussion is pointless including Yegge's diatribe. Great software is written by great software engineers. (period) end of story. And there is no amount of management that can be thrown in that can make sucky programmers better at their job.

you don't pick the language. The language picks you!

I also concur with #1's finding (small group in a room shut off from the rest). I once worked with 5 other C++ developers all sitting at a couple fold out tables in a one room office to work on a software that was used in a highly competitive niche market and this was by far the most productive I ever was. Like the OP, we could instantly talk to one another about a problem or to ask why certain blocks of code were a certain way. We wrote software used to track bets (off shore gambling). Our software sold for around $100K and at the time (about '93-'95) our only competitor was a large corporation that appeared to struggle to keep up with us. We were so innovative and fast to deliver. Those days long behind me, I often wish to find that same cohesiveness in my work-life again.

Nothing speakers louder than the dollar. Bitching and moaning really does nothing compared to the mighty dollar. Fortunately for me I own a small hosting company with roughly 1500 or so domain names that I will do a bulk transfer too after the xmas holiday. These are domain names I mainly control as a consultant for other companies (my clients)... This ought to get interesting when I begin pulling the trigger. About 6 years ago I did something similar to move away from NetSol and they attempted to block this; making it very difficult to close my accounts.

funnier yet are the over weight people standing on the side watching.

agreed. and if you do any sort of embedded work, you must know C and C++. If history is any predictor of the future, chips will continue to get smaller and the "embedded" development world, I think, will proliforate and demand coders to know C and C++ at least for the next several years until fancy tools/compilers argue things like Java and C# code bloat doesn't matter because a 4Gig embedded system will be the norm... ahem..