AlexCR

I'm didn't saying I expect overtime and a significant chunk of equity, I didn't mention equity at all. I want one or the other, and if it's equity then I want the equity to factor in the overtime I put in.

I've seen companies that have 300 people call themselves startups (~ 6 years old). In companies such as this, the prospect of new rapid growth is doubtful and my share of equity would be minimal, yet there seemed to be an attitude that overtime would be expected.

Again, asking people who have actually worked in an SF startup: What kind of ownership % can a developer person working in a 20 person company expect?