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But it's not difficult to avoid giving away unnecessary details used to create fingerprints, it's just that few people care to do it
I don't use a browser to make HTTP requests, so I have almost full control over fingerprints. There's no Javascript, cookies, CSS or images. No graphics. I use different combinations of headers, usually only Host and Connection because that's all that's needed. I use different UA values if a UA header is required, I use various TLS libraries, I can manipulate the client hello
Of course anyone can collect a fingerprint but not all fingerprints indicate a worthy ad target
"OHTTP" sounds like the dumbest idea I have heard in a while. It does nothing to reduce the amounts of detail that users send that can be used to create fingerprints
It sounds like it's working at least with respect to this author
He seems to have no alternaative but to keep feeding training data to a chatbot/agent
I am still using traditional search, done from the command line in textmode
No browser, no Javascript, no cookies
There's even way to still get "10+ blue links" from Google, it's "hiding" in plain sight, unchanged since the mid 90's, though I expect this will be shut off eventually
"But I would really prefer if Search just worked the way it did in the first place."
It's possible but the user might have to stop using Google, Anthropic (Google is an investor), Spear Street Technology, Inc., and so on
I think this author like so many other "tech" journalists will go whichever way the wind blows, whilst making futile complaints into the ether
"I find myself using A.I. to fight against aggressive A.I."
Here is what one security researcher said about "Instinct"
https://www.businessinsider.com/former-meta-security-chief-a...
But how does the www user remove a certificate that's compiled into a popular browser
The popular browsers, maintained by companies invested in internet surveillance advertising, is so large and complex that in practice few will edit and compile it themselves. Not only is certificate removal impractical but user-signed certificates outside the browser will usually trigger multiple warnings, even requiring users to type shibboleths to be detected by keyloggers
This "Web PKI" system presumes no www user can _ever_ trust themselves to make trust decisions. It's presumed that this is _never_ an option for _any_ user, in any situation
And the CA certificate is "self-signed"
Meanwhile under this "Web PKI" the www user is by default discouraged and/or blocked from using self-signed certificates she herself creates
Someone else decides who she must trust. It's not optional
For example, for a number of years someone else told her she must trust eMudhra
"Clearly, there was never any real effort to make battery swap actually work because the value to Tesla was not, you know, as an actual viable way to drive adoption. It was a way to earn ZEV credits. Once California changed its rules and insisted that Tesla prove that customers were swapping batteries, Tesla abandoned the program. But Tesla had already banked over 100 million dollars from its phantom battery swaps. Since its founding, Tesla padded its bottom line with more than 11 billion dollars in government carbon credits."
Perhaps Tesla's most successful product was carbon credits
https://www.eenews.net/articles/musk-made-a-fortune-on-clima...
"The electric automaker earned $10.7 billion from selling credits created by government climate programs, a total that accounted for a third of Tesla's profits over the last decade, according to an analysis of securities filings by POLITICO's E&E News. In the first nine months of 2024, some 43 percent of its net income came from those credits, which Tesla sold to rival carmakers after exceeding climate mandates in California and elsewhere."
1. No discussion just upvotes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Luck,_Have_Fun,_Don't_Die
1763052706 | Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die [video] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaSxNAZUKsM | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45917163
1788110175 | Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die: Sam Rockwell Lifts an Absurdist AI Sci-Fi Satire | https://apnews.com/article/good-luck-have-fun-dont-die-revie... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49500624
What would a jury say
"Nearly 20 million Americans show signs of problem gambling, which can include incessantly thinking about gambling, feeling irritable when not betting and continuing to gamble more money after a loss in a panicked attempt to win it back, according to the National Council on Problem Gambling. In May, Kalshi became a member of the council and donated $2 million to the group."
1791627120 | Gambling Addiction Group in Shambles After It Turns Out It's Funded by Kalshi | https://futurism.com/future-society/gambling-addiction-group... | not submitted
1793885715 | Ties to Kalshi Throw Gambling Addiction Group into Disarray | https://www.barrons.com/articles/kalshi-prediction-market-ga... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50378891
If it's not gambling then why donate to NCPG
The goal is to stop sending so many unnecessary details to so-called "tech" companies, intermediaries (middlemen) that have occupied the internet and engage in surveillance to support advertising services
The excessive details sent by the so-called "modern" browser, that they control (go figure), make it easier to market, sell and deliver advertising services
I don't use a browser to make HTTP requests
Advertising requires a popular browser
Every internet user can be tracked. IP address alone is usually enough
But IP address alone is not enough for today's online advertising. It needs a graphical browser, images, CSS, Javascript and so on. The complexity of these programs is a nightmare. Intricate behavioural surveillance of ad targets becomes possible
Tor is not generally used as a means to avoid advertising-related tracking that is accomplished using "fingerprinting". It could work for that but it's overkill
Using a "Tor Browser" (modified Firefox^1) that can show ads doesn't make much sense if the goal is to avoid ads
1. Mozilla, the source of Firefox, is "all-in" on internet advertising
What is the point of fingerprinting. (A: There could be multiple purposes.) If the purpose is tracking for internet advertising, then _internet advertising_ is the problem, not fingerprinting
Without the ability to advertise through a complex, popular so-called "modern" browser, tracking via "fingerprinting" becomes less valuable, perhaps even pointless
As such, the goal is to send fewer details and provide less potential for advertising and behavioural surveillance
If in doing that, every www user sends the exact same, minimum amount of detail with every HTTP request and thereby appears to "blend in", then maybe that's a useful side effect
But "blending in" alone doesn't stop advertising and behavioural surveillance. Perhaps it makes it less targeted, but it does not stop it. There is a reason that Firefox needs to be modified for Tor: it's a liability. The so-called "modern" browser has immense surface area and plethora of "features", e.g., a Javascript interpreter, that can be used for surveillance, fingerprinting and tracking, whether for advertising or anything else
I don't use it. The goal is not simply to "blend in". The goal is to deny the surface area, the "features", the excessive details sent, that can be used for online advertising and the fingerprinting and tracking that is _motivated by_ and associated with this advertising
As they say, "Don't feed the beast"