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Comment by fsloth

No, those are not art in themselves if they are based on dumb prompting.

They are random noise pastiches.

Art requires authorship.

I mean that's my definition :)

The author needs to have sufficient level of artistic skill and talent to be able to produce pieces with artistic merit. Even if they just prompt it - which they likely wont because prompt based outputs alone generally suck.

My definition for sufficient level of skill where AI tools become useful as a form of expression with true artistic merit, would be that you must be able to generate the same image with traditional media without AI:s help

If it turns out there was deep authorship in these works on some level (other than just running through random prompts) then the situation becomes more nuanced.

You should be able to tweak each individual detail with exact authorship. And _understand_ what you are doing.

So if an established painter, photographer or cinematographer uses prompt based tools, there the tools become part of expressive workflow that likely has higher artistic standard.

You can't really develop this sensitivity with prompting alone (generally).

_General_ artistic value is a DIFFERENT thing from doing something a person personally enjoys, though!

It's totally fine to enjoy prompting images.

People enjoy doing puzzles, building legos, practicing piano, playing computer games etc.

Ie engaged in activites which they enjoyu without external valuation mechanism involved.

These things are called _hobbies_. And it's awesome to have hobbies whatever they are.

parent fsloth 6 days ago

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