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Comment by kouteiheika

> Are there people seriously thinking they’re making art by generating images with AI?

I'd like to ask you a question. I'm asking in good faith. Here are a few random examples of images people create with AI:

    https://civitai.com/images/146193427
    https://civitai.com/images/17108902
    https://civitai.com/images/63175621
    https://civitai.com/images/10703900
    https://civitai.com/images/28673784
    https://civitai.com/images/59645082
    https://civitai.com/images/97017376
    https://civitai.com/images/63656891
    https://civitai.com/images/99196859
Are none of these art according to you?

Fundamentally, what makes art, well, art?

Is it the physical act of drawing it manually? Surely not, because generative art[1] (the original non-AI kind) is a widely recognized thing.

Or maybe it's the amount of effort that's spent creating it? Surely not, because paintings as trivial as a simple black or red square are considered art[2].

Or maybe just the very act of self-expression makes something into a piece of art?

Here's Wikipedia's definition:

> Art is a diverse range of human activity centered around works, crafted as an expression of creativity or imagination, which are expected to provide an audience with a worthwhile experience—generally, an experience of emotion, thinking, or beauty.

So is the thesis that, no matter how it's used, and no matter how much effort is spent, an image created with the help of generative AI can never satisfy this definition?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_art

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Square

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