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> work stealing executors have long been known to offer significantly lower latency with more consistent P99 than traditional threads. This has been known since forever - in the early 00s

Well, we know how to make "traditional threads" fast, with lower latency and more consistent P99 since forever^2, in the early 90s. [1]

Sure, we can't convince that Finnish guy this is worthwhile to include in THE kernel, despite similar ideas had been running in Google datacenters for idk how many years, 15 years+? But nothing stops us from doing it in the userspace, just as you said, a work stealing executor. And no, no coloring.

Stack is all you need. Just make your "coroutines" stackful. Done. All those attempts trying to be "zero-cost" and change programming model dramatically to avoid a stack, introduced much more overhead than a stack and a piece of decent context switch code.

> You can tell async is directionally kind of correct in that io_uring is the kernel’s approach

lol, it is very hard to model anything proactor like io_uring with async Rust due to its defects.

[1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/121132.121151

parent rfoo 6 months ago

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