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Comment by radicalbyte

That matches my experience: but it's to be expected as most CS degrees are applied Math not Software Engineering. You have to respect that.

The thing which makes SEs good is being smart and having passion. Self-taught selects for that. For young people, take a smart young person and put them through a CS degree whilst working. They'll be instantly productive and with a little guidance can be successful. Over time they become exceptional.

That was my path.

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