Comment by FrustratedMonky

"both clean vegetarian and carnivore diets are a large improvement over the standard American diet health wise"

I think this is why there is so many arguments about one or other, people get fired up over veg v carnivore.

Because they are both better than the Standard American Diet.

It is really important for people to note their starting position. If they were from Standard diet, almost anything is improvement.

Just like someone can be a vegan but is eating vegan oreo's, then that is not healthy. Or carnivore and just downing ribs all day.

Seems like just less processed is the best.