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Comment by kingkongjaffa

1. Devs are not working in isolation. Ideally a designer is also involved at some point to decide on user interactions.

2. This is kind of obvious but devs have next to 0 training in design.

3. Devs shouldn't be the ones creating UI/UX.

4. None of your examples were built solely by devs.

I don't understand the thread. The title seems to be unrelated to the description, and the final paragraphs about 3rd party clients is again another topic.

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