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Comment by fanzhang

Agree that this is how papers are often judged, but strong disagree on how this is how papers should be judged. This is exactly the problem of reviewers looking for the keys under the lamp post (does the paper check these boxes), versus where they lost the keys (should this paper get more exposure because it advances the field).

The fact that the first doesn't lead more to the second is a failure of the system.

This is the same sort of value system that leads to accepting job candidates with neat haircuts and says the right shibboleths, versus the ones that make the right bottom line impact.

Basically, are "good" papers that are very rigorous but lead to nothing actually "good"? If your model of progress in science is that rigorous papers are a higher probability roll of the dice, and nonrigorous papers are low probability rolls of the dice, then we should just look for rigorous papers. And that a low-rigor paper word2vec actually make progress was "getting really lucky" and we should have not rated the paper well.

But I contend that word2vec was also very innovative, and that should be a positive factor for reviewers. In fact, I bet that innovative papers have a hard time being super rigorous because the definition of rigor in that field has yet to be settled yet. I'm basically contending that on the extreme margins, rigor is negatively correlated with innovation.

parent fanzhang 2 years ago

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