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Comment by matheusmoreira

> not what will actually get them success

Which is?

> incels were not created created because women have agency in who they date

Did you not look at the evidence? Online dating is already the primary means of forming relationships. There's data showing women reject over 80% of men they see on dating apps. They actively choose to compete over the other 20%. They'd rather share a top 20% man than settle with a bottom 80% man.

How is this supposed to not create a class of universally rejected men?

> Bring solutions to the table if you think there is a problem.

Why bother? I doubt you'd consider any real solution since they would naturally result in disadvantages for women in favor of men and would therefore be "toxic nonsense".

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