yznovyak
Joined 13 years ago
Joined 13 years ago
An alternative POV is that somebody (USA?) does not trust Europe/Germany/... to not "relapse" to the "gas needle" when the things get dire.
But there's another aspect of this war -- information war. And it's being fought right now everywhere. While you argue against any censorships, Russia bans/jails/fines/kills EVERYTHING that doesn't strictly follow official party guidelines.
1. Russia bans everything that they don't 100% control: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. Heck, Meta is now officially an "extremist organization". I'm not even talking about other large media outlets -- all banned, latest example I've heard is German DW.
2. You're in Russia you are not allowed to call this a war, because official position that this is a "special operation". People do get fined for this.
3. They fined a guy with a sign "Фашизм не пройдеш" (== "no to fascism", but literal translation would be "Fascism will not pass"). Courts ruled this to be "discrediting of the Russian Army". People are constantly jailed/fined for "no to war" signs and for their posts on VK (Russian clone of FB). Even high profile people are censoring themselves online. Even high profile people (Yevgeny Roizman) are being investigated for a simple "like" in a social media.
4. There are pro-war rallies. Regular people are beaten up and harassed for "no to war".
5. Whether you like it or not, but Z became Russia's swastika. Main TV channels openly support it and openly discuss plans about turning western world into ashes. Prime time TV openly discusses the war plans and how those shouldn't stop with Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgcP30dIIqw main propagandist (Solovyev) openly says "with sanctions like those why do we have to stop [at Ukraine]?" and "seven troubles -- one answer -- all world to ashes", which paraphrased means that they have a universal answer to any trouble: nuclear bomb ("all world to ashes"). Or another openly discussed plan how would they conquer Europe: https://www.unian.net/russianworld/u-soloveva-obsuzhdayut-ok... Or another one: https://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1506315902169534464
7. Putin's rhetoric resemble's Hitler's to an uncanny degree. "National traitors", "solution to the ukrainian question", etc.
8. https://t.me/nexta_live/20770 yep, it's exactly what it looks like.
9. They terrorize anyone with at least a bit of opposition. They threw a severed pig's head in a wig to the doorsteps of Alexey Venediktov apartment (chief editor of "Echo of Moscow" radio station (recently banned, of course)). Oh, and Ukrainian emblem with "Judensau" (== "jewish pig", an anti-semitism thing). This is not a unique thing -- if you want, I'll give you a couple more examples. But the main thing is that perpetrators could not be found.
So please, for your own sake, do not help those propagandists in any way, because they don't play by the same rules as you do.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1504440205352349700...
This kinda explains why the first wave of Russian soldiers were naive enough to stop in the city and ask common people for directions to the city center.
I'm a lurker, sorry for that.
> - Ukrainian with ML background[1]
Thanks. I did finish Yandex's school of data science (2015-2018). I've been to Moscow in 2018 for their graduation ceremony.
Edit: My remark about me visiting Moscow is to demonstrate that I did not harbor any anti-Russia sentiments.
To be clear: the video is not mine. I simply uploaded it to youtube as an unlisted video to support my point. This original video was posted on Feb 28th to one of telegram channels I'm subbed to. The channel is https://t.me/wildwildhack which is a channel for "wild wild hack" hackathon organized by the reface.ai guys.
Unfortunately this is not so clear. I've never heard any numbers that would indicate that the explicit support is less than 50%. The most recent figure I've seen is 58%: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/08/russia-publi... But when I visit Russian reddit (pikabu.ru and d3.ru) I am appalled by the fervent support of this war by the common people, subjectively it feels like 95+%.
To put it bluntly, I believe that the modern Russia is fascist. There are many definitions of fascism, but common themes seem to be:
1. Cult of personality. Putin. Enough said.
2. Powerful and continuing nationalism. Russia has updated their constitution to include article 68 which defines Russian language as "язык государствообразующего народа" that is "the language of state-forming people".
3. Identification of enemies as unifying force. Huge disdain for USA, EU, and NATO. Obama personally steals money from Russia's retirees, EU is being openly described as gayrope.
4. Rampant sexism ... I don't think this can be applied to Russia. In general women from ex-USSR states are pretty badass.
5. Controlled Mass Media. You got it.
6. Obsession with national security. Russia's rhetoric is like that of an abusive spouse: Ukraine forced us to preemptively attack, or otherwise they (Ukr) would have attacked us (Rus).
7. Religion and government intertwined. I'll pull you up a video of Russia's main priest (archbishop? patriarch) blessing this war: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/07/russian-church-lea.... Also there are numerous videos of Russian priests blessing ICBMs: https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/6b54ml/a_russian_or...
8. Fraudlent elections. You got it.
9. Rampant croynism and corruption. Yep.
10. Those guys even got their own swastika -- the Z letter. Displayed publicly and numerously.
Please let me know if you want me to elaborate on any of the above points and I'll gladly provide you with examples. I'd elaborate from the start, but there's an air raid siren and I have to run to the bomb shelter :(.
The video is not excellent, but the audio is pretty spot on, if you ask me.
Edit: re-worded the first sentence.