xedeon

Wrong.

> You cannot deny that Tesla has not been selling as well as other EV manufacturers. You also cannot deny that Tesla has took a heavy beating internationally.

What other EV manufacturers are you even referring here? Do you even know the top 5 EV manufacturers in terms of global sales?

> All I know is I'd never buy a Tesla. Having seen them up close, the quality control is clearly not priority one. Unacceptable for a vehicle at that price

You must be trolling. 'Having seen them up close' isn't a serious basis for an opinion on an any vehicle. Take a proper 24-hour test drive and then talk about build quality.

> Toyota RAV4 seems to be the best selling car globally in 2025, not model y.

The data you're referring to is from Oct 2025 we're talking about the entire 2025 CY here.

> Overall tesla models looks dated, quality is not great, ongoing safety issue with underwhelming responses, competition on the ev segment is just better on many points now.

That's your uninformed biased opinion. If it were even remotely true, the Model Y will not be the world's best selling car for 3 years in a row. Math and sales numbers don't lie.

You are clearly clueless about the current state of EVs. I'm willing to bet you haven't even driven or owned a Tesla or BYD. So you're uninformed at best.

> I bought BYD stock in 2025 before split in the hope that their market dominance will translate to great returns. The stock has pretty consistently traded down since then. Meanwhile Tesla stock soared purely on the air coming out of Elon’s mouth.

Interesting take there. Tesla Model Y is the #1 best-selling car globally in 2025 for the third year.

Meanwhile, your BYD is bleeding from real price wars and demand slumps. Tesla's valuation? Still baked in autonomy, energy, and AI upside not just car volume. Calling it "air" while hyping your own wishful dominance is nothing but peak projection.

You must have misread:

*Key word* is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the *Kei* class of vehicles and the price is really attractive.

Yeah, but that's an EV with a base price of $49,999, whereas the Hi-lux is around $10-12K. That's coming from someone who has been an all-EV household since 2017.

Key word is “alternative” which is what I alluded to. It fits most of the use cases of the Kei class of vehicles and the price is really attractive.

I was also referring outside of the Japanese domestic market. Which the Hilux Champ is slated to be released.