whatyoucantsay
Joined 11 years ago
Joined 11 years ago
It is very surprising users would have even seen a comment buried deep in an old thread within minutes, but it is possible and I'm inclined to believe you in this case (though the next most likely case is a 五毛党 vote brigade). Nothing in the comment was a violation of guidelines, nor was the previous comment at all what it was maligned as.
That said, it's now clear that the very attempt "to voice minority opinions I believe to be true" is counter to the goals of the forum. While they're ideas and issues where one voice has a relative chance of making a difference, they're also very likely to lead to flamewars. It's hard to let go of the human rights issues, especially those I've seen some of first hand, but it's not productive here.
I'd be lying if I said YC's recent moves weren't terrifying, but I'll give up on voicing it in this way.
It's your forum and if you choose rule by law rather than rule of law, I am powerless to improve the situation. In ten years time, if you remember any of this, I hope that you might have a new perspective this topic.
It's hard to imagine HN suppressing any similar story from a similarly credible source about a million people being detained in any predominantly white or English-speaking country.
There's a lot of money for YC to make in China, but this is a million human lives. Please at least try to think about that.
(And yes, the story is certainly drawing flags from Chinese patriots and wumaodang alike)
It's not a good one, though.
> China has its own functioning tech ecosystem, so entrant companies need to play by its rules if they want to make a profit there. Period.
Nazi Germany also had "its own functioning tech ecosystem". So did Stalin and Mao's even more murderous regimes.
Moral obligations don't stop at borders.
It's like talking about "reunifying" Austria with Germany based on the previous borders of the Holy Roman Empire which once contained both.
Beijing is likely far ahead. Beijing's total VC investment is much higher, it accounts for over 1/3 of Chinese domestic VC and Chinese firms have accounted for over 40% of the biotech investment in US drug startups in the beginning of this year.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-18/chinese-m...
How uncharitable of you to write that. I didn't "forget" it. It wasn't relevant to my point. The first line was specific to this situation, but the final two I quoted represent a very universal and timeless position.
In fact, ancient Athens suffered greatly when "silence the voices of the enemies of democracy" became the dominant position in their society:
It will be interesting to see how YC helps with this as their investment and relationship with China deepens.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16922566