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I think AGI implies it: I can learn something through audio and apply it visually and the other wat around. I don’t think that’s some abstract human quirk. Isn’t that what enabled literacy? It seems kind of obvious intelligence is beneath the modality, agnostic about it.

Maybe we can learn some lessons from digital artists who naturally fret over the use of their skills and how they will be replaced by stable diffusion and friends.

In one way, yes, this massively shifts power into the hands of the less skilled. On the other hand if you’d need some proper and I mean proper marketing materials, who are you going to hire? A professional artist using AI or some dipshit with AI?

There will be slop of course but after a while everyone has slop and the only differentiating factor will be quality or at least some gate-kept arbitrary level of complexity. Like how rich people want fancy hand made stuff.

Edit: my point is mainly that the level will rise to a point that you’d need to be scientist to create a - then - fancy app again. You see this with web. It was easy, we made it ridiculous and I mean ridiculously complicated where you need to study computer science to debug React rendering for your marketing pamphlet.

I can’t remember ever asking a question and getting a helpful answer to be completely honest..

I feel weird when I read about people needing support. Maybe there is something wrong with me.

Yes, that’s true and very cool but you’re an expert. Where do the next generation you’s come from? The ones that did not do weeks of dead-end research which built resilience, skill and the experience to tell Claude now saves them time? You cannot skip that admittedly tedious part of life for free.

I think pro-AI people sometimes forget/ignore the second order effects on society. I worry about that.

You miss the point. It’s not I don’t believe in scarcity or the second law of thermodynamics, it’s that I critique capitalism’s handing of it that is by its very nature exploitative, short-sighted and unsustainable. It needs various and extensive guardrails to be functional at all otherwise it would have destroyed us already.

It’s the classic “capitalism is built on scarcity but behaves as if infinite growth is possible”-critique. There are interesting responses to that but “it’s contradictory” ain’t one of them.

That’s strange, because capitalism is the one that thinks infinity is real. Also it’s trying to break nature, quite literally given the state of our climate.

There are other ways to cooperate that don’t depend on sociopathy and infighting.

Capitalism is just one solution to that problem and I’m not convinced it’s the best one.

In capitalism everything is a function of scarcity. I wonder how long we are going to keep up that particular charade.

So, basically, be super rare? And hard to work with?

If you earn some dough and are treated somewhat nice you have already hit the jackpot.

Don’t give up a perfectly good job just because you have power fantasy issues. You will always be a worker bee, that’s just how the world is set up. Someone or something will own your ass regardless of your compensation structure.

It’s not sci-fi though. If Star Wars is sci-fi then Jurassic Park is a biology documentary.

No matter how you twist it at some point two consciousnesses differentiate on some contradictory issue maybe not name, but surely they differ on some issue otherwise they wouldn’t be .. different consciousnesses. Life as a human moves and is narrated as a single story, not the story of a thousand processes.

If that were true I can call my heart a process, my liver, etc. They are in a way part of me but they do not just ex nihilo cohere into a single narrative. That is an active process and whatever does that is the only really interesting one (IMO). So I think there might be a bunch of processes, sub personalities maybe, but there remains the problem of integration. Whatever integrates is the one that really fascinates me.

Anyway, thanks for indulging me. It is hard to go into any depth in this medium. I think you have really interesting ideas. Have a nice weekend.

It’s a single narrative that controls the body is what I mean. If one consciousness says “I am Peter” then other consciousnesses would know that and be conflicted about, if they don’t call themselves that.

What I mean is that a single narrative “wins”, not a multitude. This has to be explained somehow.

Which one controls the body? There is a problem there. You can’t just have a bunch of disembodied consciousnesses. Well, maybe.. but that sounds kind of strange.

Then there is the beautiful issue of memory: maybe you are X consciousnesses but only one leaves a memory trace?

Consciousness and memory are two very different things. Don’t think too much about this when you have to undergo surgery. Maybe you are aware during the process but only memory-formation is blocked.