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It's about independence, not innovation. Europe would have no need for this if the US hadn't gone rogue state. You make it sound like a race but it was just one guy running. Now it's two. And for deployment the EU schedule seems to be on par with SpaceX timeline, so it seems like the hottest company in the world only operates at bureaucratic EU snails pace.

Journalists (un)covered everything that would be in a Special Counsel report months/years later - in what world is that bad reporting? It's the exact opposite.

I never see this caveat mentioned in all the "... vibe-ported to Rust" threads, which makes me wonder who comments on these projects. I hand-ported a few TS hobby projects to Rust+WASM pre-AI and realized there are only two ways to go: Do a low effort translation and create very unidiomatic Rust code or redesign the application from the ground up. There's no middle ground. Option 1 is almost a waste of time and option 2 is incredibly difficult.

Europe is the only continent where some countries are close to fully nuclear and they aren't close to being the industrial powerhouses HN commenters would make you believe. Tell my why are the US (gas) and China (coal) are beating France (nuclear)?

The whole world essentially stopped building nuclear power plants at the end of the 1970s and there's one obvious answer which you guys just can't accept, so you keep inventing one stab-in-the-back narrative after another for why nuclear energy failed.

The same regulations and bureaucracy that doesn't stop ASML from producing these machines? Makes sense. Also it's funny how in the US/China/EU threads, you'd never guess that China is state-run. You'd think they are a capitalist heaven like the US.

Could the "EU has too much bureaucracy" users even say how much more bureaucracy EU is producing compared to the US and China? I doubt it. The US Congress has produced some insane behemoths of laws where the glossary is bigger than your average EU directive, so please put some numbers behind your claims.

Lastly, I think the average HN user just doesn't understand that the EU streamlines regulation across 28 countries, which is almost the opposite of coming up with new regulations. It makes things easier. But that would already require an iota of knowledge past the HN kneejerk worldview.

Yeah, that's exactly when all the semiconductor industry left Germany! And why France - the only country that's close to fully nuclear - is the industrial power house of the world. Stay shallow, HN.

And what's so special about 200 MW? Many factories in Europe use these amounts and they run their own power plants. The only edge here is that the US has cheaper fossil fuels, which it amounts to.

> Finally, and here is where Europe really really suffers, generally you need these things to be planned, approved and built within a year.

Like the offshore wind farms in the US? I think Europe and China are building these things much faster. ;)

> there is single party authoritarianism, but they always take care of their people

What an ahistorical thing to say. Read more books, less comments under cat videos.

What a high quality comment. Meanwhile at the top of every worthwhile metric including freedom indices: Half of the EU + Switzerland, New Zealand, Australia, Canada.

With a more benevolent reading of my comment you could have seen that I do consider them equivalent for cashless local payments. My first sentence was meant as "[American] debit/credit cards". This doesn't invalidate anything I said.

Trite comment. Debit/credit cards never took off in Germany because everyone had a Giro card that worked perfectly well for cashless payments. And for online payments, PayPal filled the gap quick enough. The average German saw no reason to request a Visa/MasterCard from their bank for a heavy fee when PayPal did the job. That's also the difference: Germany never had the "Here, have a free credit card" culture.

In the early days of eBay I exchanged money exclusively via bank transfer and had no worries, but for me the Internet has changed and these days I use PayPal to send and receive money from strangers. I see it like this: My email address is already public, so I'm not risking anything when I share it with strangers. My IBAN on the other hand is only known to a few respectable companies, so why change that? Seeing all the online platforms store all your PII without hesitation, but keeping your IBAN only as ****** and handing it straight to a trusted payment processor always reminds me that it's not like the others. Yes, I know businesses put their IBAN on their letter head, but they also have accountants watching their transactions.

Most banks did charge a fee at first, so this rollout is partly to blame for the option being available and the hesitancy.