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I think white people giving a shit and talking about these issues is the only reason we've come so far. Your attitude would have kept us on the 1700s.

Yeah but there's a difference between an entire street of personal security systems accompanied by apps and social networks built on fear mongering.

"just vague fears" they're called opinions which I'm allowed to have and voice in a public forum. Sorry for trying to consider the well being of the less privileged overly targeted people getting aggressively kicked out of their neighborhood.

There are gentrifying city streets that I, a white male, will not walk down because the entire street is new construction with builder included Ring systems. I don't want to walk down a street and have literally 30 people get notifications on their phones that I'm there.

I can't imagine how the local PoC that are getting pushed back feel about that. Existing neighborhood watch networks already have people crying wolf at the smallest things. This is how the culture of the area dies.

Inverse story: my dad sprayed water at a crow on his lawn, the crow then took to perching on the clogged gutter above the front door and kicking water at anyone who walked under.

Its location in effectively the city center is unfortunate. I absolutely love Amsterdam and recently spent 10 lazy days there but tried hard to avoid getting within a kilometer of Amsterdam Centraal. Reminds me of Times Square but with a lot more bros.

The problem is people don't want to associate with an organization lead by someone they have problems with, and a lot of people have problems with his views/behavior. The struggle of the FSF is difficult as it is. He doesn't have to be actively using power/influence.

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I don't understand the positioning. So it's instagram but only with friends and with status as an option? Why couldn't they change instagram to filter on friends or something?

Yeah I mean 30m is close from the perspective of something that ridiculous happening, but my point is the phenomenon of electrons moving to the point that you can actually sense it happening is localized to path of the lightning strike. Hence 30m is not close.

I'm trying to be direct, this person put out a paragraph of bad advice based on anecdotal (and not applicable) evidence while the relevant professionals and education material disagree.

Something I learned recently was that lying on the ground might seem like a good idea, but it isn't the safest position. It is thought, though I think the science is kind of out still, that the safest position is basically squatting and holding your knees. IIRC, lying down increases the chance that a near strike will still send current over you.

> been damn close ... 30m

> that your hair stands up ... is utterly false

Please stop, 30m is not close. This is advice given in wilderness first aid training for possible warning of being hit not a 30m miss.

I'm going to trust them over you.

*edit: should also say that in my WFA they said you may or may not feel it, and if you do feel it you may or may not have enough time to react to it. The only reaction you really have is "lightning position" which is a tight ball of a crouch. Lying down completely is thought to be more dangerous, so don't go diving.

Also I've seen lightning about 30m off as well, it struck the mouth of a wooded trail I was considering exiting, my eyes were focused on the exact spot it struck. Hesitation probably saved me, though it was blinding and deafening. Thunder that close is really something else, absolutely the most violent sound I've heard in person.

This is not a conducive medium to either of us swaying each other on any small point nevermind the larger argument so I'm leaving it here.

Historical and logistical context aside, 1765 vs modern weaponry and war waging abilities, are you joking? The ability for militias with small arms to fight our own military has been a joke for several decades.

I'm pretty sure seeking out the logical fallacies in a story like this is not the point...