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Haven't seen them yet. Please point me to the valid points worth considering. Thanks in advance

Empathy is precisely what Amazon and people arguing in favor of Amazon are lacking.

I'm not convinced that a good argument of ethics and empathy could be made without emotions. The whole point of this entire thread is about having empathy for the situation of the workers, which Amazon as a company does not seem to have. If you think you can have an emotion-free Logic And Reason argument involving empathy, I would love to hear it!

I don't know, there's a lot of people who are actively defending Amazon's position and I don't think it's really just casual contemplation in a lot of instances.

It's just not hard to see that these companies are not doing very much to take care of the people who are making these warehouses run, because they are considered to be expendable or replaceable. That's pretty shitty!

If you want to be a sociopath or a robot free of emotions, be my guest. The rest of us live with having emotions. Sorry to tell you that, it's part of what makes people human.

Ahh yes, the higher standards of HN, such as this post you have made in response to mine. Really powerful critique.

There are also grocery delivery services that are not Amazon if you actually care about local grocery stores.

The amount of people trying to defend Amazon in this is absolutely staggering. The amount of people trying to protect what Amazon stands for is revolting. If you are one of these kinds of people you should know that you are the enemy of treating people humanely.

I dunno. My boss is an incredibly tech savvy developer and he loves Zoom and thinks it's fantastic so I don't really see it going anywhere for a while.

I can not imagine wanting to work for someplace that doesn't have the infrastructure to allow for remote work. I'm lucky enough to be able to be choosy about who receives my labor and it's unfortunate that some people have to be relegate to working for bosses who fail to connect with people on a basic interpersonal level. It would be a good outcome for allowing remote work to become a new normal. Give the workers the option. You rely on them and your boss job is meaningless without them.