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Why do we need someone in power to advocate it. Why don't we advocate it to each other? Parents are the ones mostly influencing kids to go, or at least that was my experience.

The establishment is the enemy, not each other.

Also, I'm not sure where this "keep friends and family separate from business" idealogy came from, but business is just organizing production. If we're not going to try to hold those keys with our friends and family, then elites will hold them for us.

Side note-no actual progress can come until there is sound money again.

Great point about declaring a product complete.

The internet is interesting in that it can bypass a lot of consumer protections that have been hard fought in government.

One that I recently saw on here was the government (not sure which level, federal I think) declaring that click to sign up, call to cancel is illegal.

There is so much user hostile behavior online it's crazy, generally speaking it seems we all need to find our way back to morals.

Hang in there with the despair.

We can see now that without import controls corporations are going to chase slave-like labor around the globe until there isn't another country left to go to. I'm guessing everyone is against worker exploitation. What else is the answer? Globalization circumvents any wins for human rights made locally.

So what's the truth on the ground then on government control rn?

Also, where is the block of salt for the death rate? It was already absurdly low without factoring in everyone that got sick, recovered easily, and never reported.

Happy to have my perspective changed.

You can't argue with anything that comes out of the corporate press.

I personally think the WHO has been comprised and don't trust them, but I used data associated with them since a lot of people do trust them still.

If you won't trust this data what will you trust?

The most trustworthy source is anecdotal but I know that's not accepted in arguments either.

The censorship is so bad you can't even Google anything anymore so where do you go?

What data on adverse reactions would you all accept?

When I've been sick in the past I've often thought that it would be nice to have recourse against the people who infected me.

This is life though. It's not practical, moral, or enforceable.

The best thing one can do is put effort into the factors they can control—diet, exercise, avoiding unnecessary conflict to keep stress low, etc.

If this was about compassion and caring for our fellow man there would be a lot more discussion about the personal responsibility of exercise, eating clean, not being obese, etc etc. The top killers are heart disease and diabetes. Also, doctors that are advocating for medicine that can cure the disease wouldn't be censored. Scientists that advocated against vaccinating into an active pandemic so as to not put selective pressure on mutations wouldn't be silenced. This is about control and money though; there is no fair play or goodwill by the media or captured government institutions.

I think if modern life was a boardgame, no one would want to play because the system is too rigged.

To me it's silly to see how much unused land there is in the USA but people aren't allowed to use it because a few people showed up 150 years ago and claimed it for themselves. And when they did they stole it from other people. Now people are just supposed to respect that forever?

Or an immune system... or therapeutics...