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I'm confused… You don't want to read about the newest LLM models on the HN front page all day long, every day of the week? SAD!!

Worse - We all are paying with our planet.

Sadly, there is no way to find out, f.ex. by a quick Google search.

They're called Îles Malouines in French and Islas Malvinas in Spanish, after all.

This is all true. Yet, all I’m hearing is "Water under the bridge! Annexion is just a thing humans do, get over it." and I think that’s too easy to say when you aren’t, for example, of African heritage. I simply believe that there are some historical events that are more inhumane (for the lack of a better word) than others. Where would you draw the line of acceptance if your country were to invaded, traded, or otherwise knocked down under the power of a foreign force? As I stated before: Was it a true (political, economical, defensive, ...) need for Britain to claim Gibraltar or was it great power politics aka greed disguised as such need?

We could have stopped right at the moment when ‘need’ was replaced by ‘greed’. I know, illusionary.

No, I'm just thinking about things on a more abstract level and wonder whether what is taken for granted really is always a given when doing so.

That may all be true, but you’re talking about voluntary affiliations here.

Colonies are rarely ceded voluntarily, but are usually the result of an invasion or a lost conflict. The fact that this is no longer the case with Gibraltar today, because its inhabitants value the benefits of belonging to Britain, is simply a consequence of the time that has passed since then. It does not automatically undo the imperialist actions of the past.

No hatred was uttered. Just a view of the world you're apparently opposed to.

So you’re suggesting amnesia and ignoring the fact that Gibraltar wasn’t a blank spot on the map before it was annexed by the British. I think that’s a very one-sided view.

Well, in theory, they should! :) Imagine a world where expansionist acts of violent injustice could be undone.

If it belongs to the people who live there, why does Britain have any say in their matters?

I was not talking about any of the points you mention, I was refering to the geographical facts alone. Wouldn't you agree that in general it is kind of silly to claim ownership of a piece of land that is far, far away from your own country?

I didn't debate that.