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You reckon EVs drive on a sidewalk? Maybe you consider moving. Seems like you’re surrounded by idiots.

> There is no recovery to be had here.

Of course there is. The world isn’t black and white. I said “could”, there are many shades of grey in between. Don’t be such an absolutist, like your truth is the truest one.

> It is not the same.

Well, … it depends, no?

It’s ridiculous because it doesn’t fit your narrative. A bicycle hitting you are 15mph is going to fuck you up one way or another.

I don’t care about your stats. The fact is: cars move in their dedicated space. Most of them obey most of the traffic rules. Bicycles and scooters zoom past me on the sidewalk and it doesn’t make me feel safe. Neither having to jump over them on a sidewalk. I’m young, I can, but my mother cannot and it’s a problem for her. So take your stats and read them alone. Thanks, I take a car. I’m from the generation who doesn’t have their noses glued to mobile phone 24/7.

We could all go back to caves, too.

As a pedestrian I would hope that those cyclists remember when they’re pedestrians too. Both can kill you easily. But cars don’t sneak up on you silent from behind when you’re on a sidewalk.

Go on then.

> And cheaper.

You sound like a broken record.

> Remove the EV subsidies and ICE taxes.

But they didn’t find power for data centres. That’s one of their problems.

Yes. Five million of them does not require many cars. 180k in 2025. Compare that to 2.4 million in Germany.

Zonda is a model from Pagani Automobili.

We have learned from China. And?

Yeah, unless you’re a pedestrian. Cyclists in NL in cities like Utrecht or Amsterdam are worse than car drivers.

They said “nearly”. Ford is the only American brand selling numbers in Europe, maybe nect to Tesla.

And leave their “partners” to clean up the mess?