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That's not exactly what I've heard called a doomer. Doomers are the ones who think we're building the wrong AI god.

(But I agree with you fwiw)

Clearly what they're going for when they called it OpenDenistSmalltalk

The other major application is justifying opinions you already hold (and cited as a bludgeon against people who disagree).

We can conclude that there are more tests per code perhaps. We can't conclude they're adding value.

As a Linux user I didn't have to pirate anything, just one more way we are different. I also got one tier down in CPU from the one you considered, not surprised if it was a lower markup for that one. I could probably find the receipts for ram and SSD to prove my numbers make sense for me, but isn't that all profoundly uninteresting?

But that's exactly the point: removing the charger, windows and buying ram elsewhere is exactly the comparison that makes sense if you have a good charger, don't run windows, and don't mind your ram coming on a different day of the week. Ymmv as I said.

If you want to quibble with words, you're right that I could have hedged more in my original comment, e.g. "cost can be competitive depending what exactly you are looking for". I'm not denying your experience for what you wanted, but for what I wanted, the costs were pretty close.

My memory is more like 20% premium for the practical options that I could find on the market at the time (spring 2024). But ymmv depending what specs you actually care about. If the off the shelf thinkpads or whatever actually match the set of specs you want, then they will be cheaper than the equally-speced framework by a bigger margin. Also worth noting that there have been a lot of sales on the framework end, so that could give different perceptions depending on timing. Oh, and also I'm talking about buying the memory and SSD elsewhere, not as part of the kit. That was a chunk of savings too.

Speaking as someone who did buy a framework as my primary computer (and has been happy with it), my hesitation had much more to do with uncertainty about the execution than with price, which is pretty competitive when you diy. Especially because for the value proposition to pay off, the company/ecosystem has to survive for several years at least and continue making compatible product in the categories I would want. It's a big investment for most people and it's not surprising most go with a safe/known option.

Yeah, incredibly, malicious actors can do bad things, and they can do worse things with tools than with their hands. That's why they like guns, bombs and financialization so much.

, if you prompt it with fanfic scenarios. Seems like a good reason not to do that imo.

"asked to write a fanfic about a dystopian sci-fi scenario, Claude 4 reproduced a fanfic that matches many from its training data and has very little to do with the way anything actually works"

One can and does argue many disingenuous things, evidently.

Except that you have innate human dignity and the machine is a hunk of plastic and (semi)metal.

I'm not moving the goalposts -- you just changed the subject so the discussion is different.

99.99% of valuable work is a version of something that's been done before, including in math. Lots of people get phds for successfully applying known stuff to new contexts, at least in my fields. It still takes pretty deep understanding to be able to grasp something well enough to apply it in a useful way, whether you derived it for the first time ever, found it in a textbook, or asked chadbbt