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That premise is great.

I've built some tools that genuinely help me manage my life tasks that improve my quality of life irl, but a lot of stuff I've built has been built to allow me to build more things like itself faster... And I ask myself, for what? Haha

The real crime is you thinking public transportation should cost the individual money.

A lot of people think more jobs overall will be created from this. I sort of agree. However, our day to day has changed so much. The problems that I found fulfilling to solve are now handed off to LLMs, but at the same time I can build the things I want to build easier and faster. There are tradeoffs for sure. I'm trying to stay positive though.

Even when I'm not using Docker to deploy something, I'm _probably_ using oci images at the least, but I'm generally running my local dev stack with Docker compose. Not always, but I use it in a lot of projects.

> Next up: Databases are weird

> Did you know that databases are just a file?

oOoOoOoOo

Mostly joking. It's cool to see tech demystified, but I feel like a lot of things we use and take for granted are like this.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about installing the software you need to run whatever service you're declaring you want to run

I'm running some of my own software that I'm constantly working on, so it was important to me to have good ci/cd. And uptime is important because of some of the home automations. Nothing catastrophic would happen, but I'm just not always able to go reset something manually whether due to time or space.

At other times in my life I've ran Plex on a laptop in the corner with a note on it saying not to close it.

I have no issues with how someone wants to run their setup, I just took issue with saying they're fiddly. I guess they're fiddly when you fiddle with them haha.

I'm sure you could achieve almost all the things I needed with docker compose, but I was using it at work and had designed some clean helm charts so just used them at home.

I use it when I need to deploy a service across multiple machines. For personal projects that's pretty much my biggest decider. Otherwise I'm using the same docker compose setup I've been using for a while!

How is it a waste of time to health check your self hosted services? I use these services. I need them to work and be available. Bookmark manager, media server, my note taking app, a book server for friends, a few Discord bots I run, I've ran long running game servers for friends and a couple of little apps, home automation with CV ran on premise. We're obviously doing different things and have different priorities, but you can't act like k8s and docker are overkill and fiddly simply because you haven't found a need for them yet. Imo it is a huge pain the ass to manage this stuff without good iac. It's never been easier to implement something that makes my life easier. Seems like an obvious choice when you reach a certain scale.

When I said I was a professional software engineer, I just meant that I have a lot of experience doing this stuff, so to set it up at home isn't really fiddly or cumbersome.

Nah I thought their setup was pretty ridiculous and seemed hard to maintain. I run all my stuff via docker compose and am very happy with it. I don't understand the comments praising single go binaries, which I've actually seen reach out to the docker engine api and start containers for their dependencies

I see people say the same things in threads discussing open source agent harness repos that are MIT licensed. I don't understand how it isn't obvious to them at that point haha. I don't think people realize they can just... do whatever they want to

I mean I'm not self hosting my password manager like this guy, but my self hosted services have better uptime than github actions

How do you declare the dependencies though? The unit file only covers starting the process.

It's been really interesting seeing the divide in the comments! I have a completely different philosophy from the OP on how to self host haha, and it comes from not wanting to fiddle with my server all the time! But they say our ci/cd is fiddly! The whole point of it is to NOT be fiddly! People gotta start figuring out how things work instead of throwing spaghetti at the wall.