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Perl and CPAN definitely do not get enough flowers for their contribution to TDD.

You might want to go ahead and inform those investors who bought Amazon or Booking.com stock in the early 2000s that their orders of magnitudes of returns were really no such thing.

With which JavaScript version? At the time HOP was written I remember JavaScript still doing all it's for loops in C-style and there was certainly no arrow syntax to make anonymous JS functions manageable.

There were also no functional methods available, as related by the restriction to C-style for loops. (Array Iteration methods didn't appear in the spec until 2009, so I don't see how you could have map or select or anything else functional).

Thank you for taking the time to break this down!

Your description and summary blocks have started me wondering... has there been much work done on converting APL statements to more verbose explanations?

The sigil-to-meaning mapping is likely automatic for seasoned APL programmers but it might make such one liners more effective for evangelist purposes by making them somewhat more self-documenting.

I'd be very interested in reading more about the differentiating features of GNU APL. There is a great big announcement at the beginning of the GNU APL docs that talks of a decision needing to be made around a gap in the ISO specification. Is that the primary source of controversy or is there more discussion I could read somewhere else?

I've been looking for a good "diff" of the language differences between Dyalog APL and GNU APL, as much as to understand the extent of the progress since 'APL2' (or whatever the ISO standard name is considered equivalent to it) as any for any specific list of what GNU APL can't do relative to it's modern commercial compatriots.

(EDIT: Fixed final sentence to be a complete thought/sentence).

True but if I understand correctly (and I'd be happy to be corrected by someone with more K experience), the smaller size of input data should also have an impact on real world parser performance (including the memory usage involved therein).

I'm awaiting delivery of a printed Mastering Dyalog APL book while reading this! I landed on kdb+ after seeking a reasonable alternative to the so called "best in class" Elastic Search/Kibana tooling, fell in love with K once I understood that the syntactic terseness is all for the sake of fitting the entire interpreter into L2 cache, and have now landed at the decision that learning Iverson's classic is the only way to satisfy my desire to live a life free of them dang stinking loops!

According the recent 18.0 release presentation, it sounds like they are aware of how different an experience this is relative to other interpreted "scripting" languages. To that end, they have added support for a Run function that will execute with access to to the invocation arguments.

EDIT: They also discuss how the upcoming convergence of .Net Framework and .Net Core is going to have a major impact on their cross-platform capabilities.

That is categorically untrue. Verbal cultures in Australia have kept an accurate account of a coastline that existed over 10,000 years ago.

Meanwhile, the supposed collective knowledge in books is constantly second guessed and taken with grains of salt ("bronze age army sizes couldn't possibly be the size they write that they are", "the winner writes the history", etc).

Thank you for raising this very significant detail to the comment section!

Raku includes an incredible amount of new tools for writing one-liners. Furthermore, you can convert your one-liner into a command line app simply by wrapping the code in a `sub MAIN($pos-arg, :$named-arg) { ... }`.

It's worth checking out the Red ORM, great progress is being made and it feels very Perl 6 native in terms of its semantics.

Perl 6 is my go to scripting language. The concerns about code styles don't apply at that point because it's all me. And the multi paradigm nature of Perl 6 means I can solve any given algorithm using a style that fits how I'm feeling in that moment.

Considering the amount of crap that is heaped on Perl 6 for even daring to exist, maybe in the future you might consider using language that highlights something that you find impressive.

Otherwise it comes off as more cheap shots. Thanks for adding your comment, though! It helps :)