{"by":"shitlordism","dead":true,"id":11819374,"parent":11818921,"text":"Moral statements are usually stated in way that implies objectivity. For example: "It is wrong to rape babies" or the nemedse reply [1] (writes that things are universally bad). Plus, objectivity gives you credibility. That's why people are citing scientific studies, get 3rd parties or submit evidence, instead of saying "I just made it up" or "I pulled it out of thin air" etc.

  It's like I said "I like pepperoni pizza," and you're trying to say "no one kind of pizza is objectively better than the rest, so you have no right to choose pepperoni pizza over any other pizza\n

\nThis is misleading. "I like pepperoni pizza" or "Jazz is my kind of music" are positive personal preferences. Those are not binding to anyone. It is stated in a way that expresses your positive preference as opposed to criticism of others' preferences. When you start to criticize others' preferences, that's where questions of objectivity come in.

People here are saying something more like "People who eat other types of pizza are idiots. Pepperoni pizza is the the most delicious pizza. period.". Then you could ask: "Who are you to say that and call people idiots? You might like it, but it doesn't mean others do and that pepperoni pizza is in fact the most delicious pizza.". That would be a reasonable reply to an arrogant person.

  But in fact I do have this right, being that I'm the one choosing which pizza to eat.\n

\nAgain. You're mistaking expressing positive personal preferences with criticism of others' preferences.

BTW, rights (to express yourself or write on this forum freely) are also related to morality. You are stating "I do have this right..." as if you saying something that's objectively true. Like "I have arms or legs". The same way you think you have rights is how most people think about morality - it's something objective and is not a matter of what anyone else thinks. Concept of natural rights confirms this (inalienable rights that can't be given or taken away by anyone and you have them, not because you think you do, but because you objectively do).

  [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11818411

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