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Comment · 3 months ago
I agree, very aware it's way more than just the publishing / email tools! Also posted a top-level comment about building alternatives with https://leaflet.pub and https://standard.site - and yes I think really important to consider the full list of things you get with Substack: blog + email, easy to customize, monetization, social features + network, all in one platform, long tail of features…

Did a short talk on this at a local meetup recently, basically on how we might collectively re-create the entire stack of what Substack offers, in an open ecosystem, with a strong focus on network / distribution, more so than just features.

It's a tall order but I do think there's a big opportunity here beyond what any single app can or should tackle, in building an open alternative to the whole longform publishing stack, combining the tools and the social network side. AT Protocol and the Atmosphere (ecosystem of folks building on it) are pretty well positioned here. Lots of nice ways to get autonomy and ownership with web publishing + distribution and social affordances at the same time.

Of course a big challenge in bootstrapping the network and building the cultural footprint and giving folks flexible ways to make money and reach new readers, but I'm encouraged by how much progress we've made collectively just this past year.

Comment · 3 months ago
I'm one of the creators of Leaflet - https://leaflet.pub - also mentioned in another comment. We're making a publishing app kind of like Substack or Ghost, but connected to the open social ecosystem building on AT Protocol. There a lot of potential here, and a lot of tools that already exist.

We collaborated with other publishing apps (pckt & Offprint) to make Standard.site - https://standard.site - a simple set of standards for publishing interop that enables something like RSS but on top of a whole social network. More context: https://lab.leaflet.pub/3moomxyjssk2p

Others can leverage this to make e.g. a whole reader app where you can find everything people in your network are publishing: https://standard-reader.app

A key thing is it's very flexible, you can publish on Leaflet, or on a self-hosted blog, and make your content discoverable and subscribeable in the same way. And in either case, you own your content — even if you use Leaflet as your hosted CMS, published data lives in your PDS where you control it, and all the social graph stuff persists even if you stop using Leaflet or we ever shut down.

Self-hosting a website is great but also considerable overhead for many folks, and we want to make it easy to publish and still have control and avoid lock-in. We even see folks doing hybrid approaches, e.g. using Leaflet to publish (for easy to use CMS + nice social features) but also pulling published data to render directly on their own website.

It's very different from what you get with a concentrated single platform like Substack (or Instagram, YouTube, etc) as far as audience reach, and early days with the ecosystem, but I think it's valuable in a different way. It's more aligned with the open web, and importantly, it's more antifragile — there are many ways to reach people and interact with your readers, from Bluesky to Leaflet to other reader apps, search tools, etc. Network effects aren't there yet to the degree of Substack, but a lot of cool things are emerging and it feels like an exciting time to build here together.

Comment · 1 year ago
Comment · 1 year ago
I wasn't the one doing the back and forth on this directly but I think it was at least a few weeks, lots of threads with support etc. Partly on us for something like business address records not matching in different places…we get it b/c I'm sure they're dealing with a ton of spam mitigation but the process could definitely have been clearer / more startup friendly.
Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - thank you, really nice to hear! It's taken us a long time and several prior products/prototypes to arrive at this, including previous attempts where we had similar aims — make nice expressive spaces for collaboration, creative work, learning — but took very different (and more complicated) directions, e.g. a multi-room chat/note hybrid app with each project as its own database, or a global wiki with live calls built in.

I think Leaflet's by far the most easy to use but also hides a lot of power and expressive potential without being overwhelming, and we're seeing more traction and cool ways people are using, so happy with it so far! In particular finding it really cool how there's a lot of space between very simple notes/docs and rich publishing that gets closer to artifacts more like whole websites but with document-like form factor. And making something that's equally nice and simple to read and to edit/collaborate on with others…a good challenge and design space to explore!

Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - thanks so much for the detailed feedback here, this is great context and appreciate the specifics on CSS intricacies / naming history I was not aware of! We'll take a look at improving our scrollbar handling. We like the minimalist look without but have gotten used to it and I hear you it breaks a useful and expected affordance. I think we might be able to strike a balance with just vertical scrollbars in pages + maybe eventually do a custom indicator for multi-page columns (more obvious b/c you see them open side by side, and global horiz scrollbar is a lot uglier than per-page vertical ones!)
Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - sorry about that! Are you seeing that with 'canvas' pages, or multiple doc pages open side by side? What device / screen size? I haven't seen issues with horizontal scroll recently but lots of trickiness with slight differences across browsers and maybe things we can improve for particular cases.

Re: scrollbars honestly we just like the cleaner minimalist look and have gotten used to it but I hear you (+ others) that it can be annoying, we'll look into improving.

Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - agree, code blocks is definitely on our list! Both inline and full code blocks e.g. with CodeMirror. Ideally with syntax highlighting, just need to figure out how to play nicely with our custom themes…though probably fine to start with just a default theme.
Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - this is a really good point! We actually had an explicit 'delete' button earlier but removed it temporarily b/c it was causing some confusion I think with people accidentally deleting collaborative docs for everyone and not just for themselves. So right now we have 'remove from home' but not full delete. We should add that back and see if we can improve the UX.

Right now all docs are unlisted but anyone with the link can view; we're also thinking about fully private or password protected docs (several people have asked about this) but still exploring the best approach there.

Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - thanks for sharing that, actually just finished drafting this week! It was fun to make all the different pages with different examples / themes…and also I think a nice demo of our custom domains feature :)

Btw some parts still incomplete e.g. I want to eventually fill out more detail on each page re: how Leaflet compares to other tools, and add more examples and templates. If anyone makes good ones they'd like to share publicly, glad to add!

Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - thanks, and good idea! Yeah right now canvases are quite minimal, lots we can improve both with basics like selection/drag, and more types of canvas-specific blocks. We'd love to get some kind of freeform sketch block at some point too, though more complex, a few more frequently requested things we want to get to first, like simple tables and font options!
Comment · 1 year ago
(Leaflet cofounder here) - much appreciated; we spent a lot of time iterating building different versions of apps before Leaflet that were more explicitly around shared social spaces and communities for learning and collaborative projects, which informed some of our aims in making Leaflets both simple docs and shared spaces (lots we can improve there e.g. bringing in live presence features!)

For the RSVP block, yes we're using Twilio - right now it automatically uses SMS for US/Canada numbers and WhatsApp for int'l, bit more cost effective…I think it wasn't a huge lift technically, though took longer than expected mainly b/c we had to wait a while / re-submit some documentation etc. for approval.

Comment · 1 year ago
Comment · 4 years ago
Good post, a lot rings true in my experience! Twitter is a uniquely good place to meet people, though it requires a lot of work and calibration to use successfully, and it takes practice to be yourself in a public broadcast medium. But I feel like curating a quality follows list and interacting with people you like online has very high ROI. And it's worth taking the initiative — asking good questions, planning casual events, proposing ideas for collaboration — even if not everything pans out, it's about increasing the surface area for serendipity, opening up more possible paths, planting seeds…
Comment · 6 years ago

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