sashank_1509
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An agentic OS, that you can speak to a majority of the time to get stuff done, also seems like an interesting direction
Even outside of controls based games, LLMs fail on sokoban like puzzles weirdly enough, see MazeBench, they’re also not that good at chess, probably around 1600 elo.
More and more it feels like as humans we are re-entering the pre 1700s era where most humans never learnt any technical knowledge, circa they never needed it.
The LLM boosters will claim, this is good and fine, LLMs will create an age of miracles and we will climb the kardashev scale or whatever other nonsense. I don’t think that will happen, I’m like 99% sure we won’t even cure cancer. We’re just making large swathes of intellectual work that we invented since the 1700s to now redundant for some reason and hoping that’s a better future, we are liberated from the “toils of thinking”. Well humanity has lived for 1000s of years without thinking of any of this stuff, so we’ll be fine but I suspect the world was richer when we did think about all this.
How much additional productivity do they think admin staff can crank out, and does that even matter. Does a 100X more productive research administrator mean the University will not be “left behind”, in this new world. I think we are officially reaching mass hysteria phases of the AI revolution.
No one’s gonna care for formalizing a 10,000 page math proof with 46M lines of Lean code, unless it is very cheap to do, which seems unlikely.
This gives a sense of embellishment by a clueless layman who think very smart people can memorize every single thing they ever do. Computers memorize well, very smart humans, it’s not clear if they memorize any better than a man of the street. I was struck by a fields medalist recent comment that he sometimes struggle remembering proofs he wrote himself in the past.
In the past building something fast, complicated etc required quite a lot of skill and some time. Now you need far lesser skill and lesser time. This just means what you are building is commodified, and has far lesser value that it had before. Take typescript, if it becomes clear that LLMs can speed it up with no regressions and a week or so of prompting, then most likely every company will have their own typescript compiler and no one will use your new one that you built with your 200$ plan.
A lot of tasks are much easier now and also monetarily they’re not worth the 200$ or so tokens of the ChatGPT plan you’re using, because anybody (or at least a number of people) can do it now.
Rather than being more ambitious with AI, you will be far better off finding a unique combination of skills and services that does not compete / AI can’t provide. Only the big labs can be really ambitious with AI.
Can AGI figure that out. Maybe, but I think it is very likely that AGI will also have to fail in the real world, and then develop those learnings that those companies have done. There is no way to circumvent this computation, you need to do these steps to even know what the correct solution is. I like to think of it as playing chess. Intuition helps in directing exploration, but any agent, human or machine has to explore down a minimum number of paths before converging to the optimal move. There is no algorithm that can generate an optimal move without this search, P!=NP says something similar, exponential search can’t be done in polynomial speed.
Stephen wolfram says something similar, superintelligence, whatever cannot predict the output of the trillionth step of a cellular automate without calculating all the steps before it, there is a minimum amount of computation required, the problem is computationally irreducible below that.
So maybe in the future, with humanoid robots, AGI can decide to start creating a Walmart competitor. Then it will make a large number of mistakes and it needs to learn from, this could mean continual learning or maybe just memory in markdown files if that’s enough. It needs to hit all those failures quickly till it finally has something as efficient and capable as Walmart. And this is to just become a capable competitor, during this time you will keep burning money and to surpass Walmart, you have to do far better which is hard, how much more efficient can Walmart be, idk.
All to say, OAI starting its own company is a losing proposition, huge capital, unclear benefits, high risk. If OAI just provides AI to Walmart, they can make money immediately and Walmart can become more efficient by firing its human workers, which is the problem we are stumbling into.
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