rosspackard
Joined 12 years ago
Joined 12 years ago
Metr may overall have an ok mission, but their motivation is questionable. They published something like this to get attention. Mission accomplished on that but they had to have known how this would be twisted.
They used 16 developers. The confidence intervals are wide and a few atypical issues per dev could swing the headline figure.
Veteran maintainers on projects they know inside-out. This is a bias.
Devs supplied the issue list (then randomized) which still leads to subtle self-selection bias. Maintainers may pick tasks they enjoy or that showcase deep repo knowledge—exactly where AI probably has least marginal value.
Time was not independently logged and was self-reported.
No possible direct quality metric is possible. Could the AI code be better?
The Hawthorne effect. Knowing they are observed paid may make devs over-document, over-prompt, or simply take their time.
Many of the devs were new to Cursor
Bias in forecasting.
16 devs. And they weren't allowed to pick which tasks they used the AI on. Ridiculous. Also using it on "old and >1 million line" codebases and then extrapolating that to software engineering in general.
Writers like this then theorize why AI isn't helpful, then those "theories" get repeated until it feels less like a theory and more like a fact and it all proliferates into an echo chamber of AI isn't a useful tool. There have been too many anecdotes and my own personal experience to ignore that it isn't useful.
It is a tool and you have to learn it to be successful with it.
So some "experts" could be staying quiet because they don't have one. But some may stay quiet because they are working on or benefiting from it?
Looking at the OI docs wasn't too helpful.
"I did spend a non-trivial amount of time fiddling with the prompts" was it writing prompts?
I am really interested and this seems like a cool use case that I want to explore. Could you share the prompts on a github gist?
This would allow crowd sourcing and statistics to be applied by the best minds in the world.
I know regulations can make this difficult but many difficult boundaries are being pressed now.
What industry? How long you worked on it, etc?