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I fail to see any argument why the namedtuple beats the usage of a class here. A class in a development view of the problem, is also a structure to build and expand upon, a tuple is a promise this won't be expanded upon. Clearly case dependent which is better.

I recall problems with AI learning to be prejudiced too.

I use X/Twitter, I find it's quite good. Follow what you like and swap the feed to only display "Following".

Right, countries will be launching blockades and wars over the invaluable contribution that for example Sub-Saharan Africans can give to a country.

Maybe someone could recommend them to take in a lot of immigrants? That's what we did in Europe.

>a consistent system of ethics

What is that?

It's one thing to see someone struggling to make AI believe in the same values that you do, quite common. But what I haven't seen is one of these people turning the mirror back on themselves. Are they faking alignment?

Are you moral?

The problem with Wikipedia is unfortunately the same problem as any society faces. Often things start out well, then [someone] arrives. Society then believes that if we define with rules and scripture how we believe, [someone] will behave like we did.

But [someone] isn't the one who started the project. They're a different person. And even if they read the rules, they are not motivated by the rules.

My original comment contains justification for the idea presented. I don't understand why this is controversial to you? Why do you hold that my original comment does not contain justification? It clearly does.

Moving on to the real discussion, not this infernal semantic journey you've taken to embark upon.

If it was equally plausible that mass-immigration is currently not openly condoned by left-wing politicans, because the migrant wave isn't currently hitting europe and the lax migration policies are already in place; then why was the left so willing to talk about being pro-migration __before__ the migrant wave? The lax policies have been in place in Sweden since the 70:s.

What has happened, is that the disaster of the policies is now so plain and obvious, that not even professional liars can reasonably stand in the tv-broadcast and talk about it enthusiastically, it is a disaster for everyone involved and no one pretends it's not. Instead, all the politicians can do is ignore the problem while they silently try to alleviate as many small aspects of the disaster as possible, so people don't wake up to just how poorly this country has been run.

Sweden had these issues before migration, yet not the same disastrous societal result.

I will refrain, unfortunately. Have a good day.

Do you think all comments need to be articles in length? My original comment contains an idea, and a justification. It really is almost platonic in how simple it is actually, schoolbook example.

You might feel that the justification is inadequate, but instead you began talking about how my comment doesn't "prove" anything, and now that it doesn't contain justification at all.

Part of the reason why this justifies the idea that a consensus actually has been reached, is that the left used to extol in length the benefits of immigration, and how Swedes are terrible people that need diversity to get anywhere. It turned out that was wrong, and now the country is heading away from reasonably being called a developed country any more. The focus of the leftists in control is instead to feverishly moderate the discussion so no one begins talking about __mass remigration__, what Sweden actually needs, and they do this by talking about limiting migration, even deporting some criminals. (the consensus, ding ding)

The bell indeed can't be unrung.

But, if one understands that what the Swedish leaders did was not on behalf of it's people, you begin to understand what the future should look like.

I can see that you've modified your comment. I will redact mine in turn.

And "migrants" are simply not highly educated in this situation, they come from the Middle-East, and Africa.

Sweden's problem with mass immigration isn't related to some Japanese dude who moved here to work with steel manufacturing.