rico735

Those new "free" API credits are another nudge towards getting people away from subscriptions imo.

Bet there's some Amazon Prime-y dark patterns in claiming them.

Not sure where you got that from my comment.

Might want to Google Global Crossing. The internet survived, but most giant companies did not.

Doubt the race to the bottom is really good for consumers, unless you actually just want more stuff rather than better stuff. The bubble bursting is going to be pretty horrible financially for us all.

The main thing it seems to have done so far is made everything feel less trustworthy, and everything digital less safe. It has empowered scammers, that's for sure.

And for what benefit? Spunking out 7/10 code a bit faster with your brain turned off. Great!

The post I was replying to was questioning why people are showing doubt here and I was offering up a theory in this specific case. It's not supposed to be helpful or combative, just a thought. I agree with most of what that post is saying tbh.

Mixing security with PR just does not seem a good idea, and a worrying precedent.

PHP handled it correctly, and I trust them. I don't feel the same about OpenAI.

You can have more than one conversation in a thread, and not everything has to be black-or-white!

I didn't say it was made up (hence my comment that the reaction to it's potential was right), I said that OpenAI have used it as a marketing opportunity and muddied the waters in doing so, due to being a historically untrustworthy company who use scaremongering as a marketing technique.

There is a wolf in the boy who cried wolf.

It feels like the problem in this specific case is that the security people have a link to OpenAI, who have a financial interest in this being as big as possible.

PHP were right to make the warning so strict, and people were right to take sites down in precaution. It certainly could have been horrific.

However, OpenAI makes it a boy who cried wolf situation and I've no idea if "we expect to see exploits 15 minutes after the patch is launched" was a genuine concern that thankfully doesn't seem to have happened or them trying to over-state the ability of their models.

Your point is valid about how we need to be more concerned about this stuff, but I just wish it wasn't being played for bragging rights by AI guys. I mean, they had an official php2shell website ready-to-go for the patch launch party, which doesn't help it not look like a PR exercise.

If you ask an LLM to review your code, then it tends to write a lot of code for situations that will never happen. You choose the bits you need. It's actually pretty useful as a code reviewer.

If you don't review the review, my assumption is that it will add a lot of code bulk, which won't break anything now but that bulk could soon fill up context windows and/or require far more tokens in future when you want to maintain it. You'll most likely end up with a project that human's can't maintain.

Code bulk and future maintainability really feel like unsolved problems, and we have no idea what tools or costs will be this time next year.

I'd rather see your reasoning.

AI research started in the 1950s, and has always led to AI winters as promising areas of research peak.

I suspect they are stealing your data when you install the apps, but if these companies are acting legally and not doing that, I can see no way they can avoid model collapse now that the internet is mostly unusable slop.

Have the devs been financially rewarded for their speed or just given more work? Have the customers been charged less?

If "you don't have to review" really is true then the economics are an even bigger nightmare. The value of code has decreased, the "SaaS is dead" claim becomes real, and any good idea can be easily cloned.