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If I'm basically expected to prove my value to a loudmouth that walked in a few weeks ago in a place I've worked in for >year because he can't figure out how to evaluate people - I'd rather do that in an interview for another company - sounds healthier.

>you know--Scientists--without political agendas study this problem very carefully...and do not see any widespread effects from the vaccine after a year.

?? This entire thread is me asking if there's some studies that compare long COVID sideffects with groups based on vaccination. Instead of linking these, since you're already certain (and I would very much be convinced if you can show me) you are saying "believe science" ? And I'm unscientific ?

By all means enlighten me and I'll edit my top post with links to stop spreading misinformation.

You're just being presumptive, overreaching in conclusions and overconfident in your narrative. I've seen two studies linked recently about long COVID. Neither included vaccination as a test variable. Since these two studies were recent and newsworthy enough to link on HN I'm assuming your "There is no data supporting widespread negative effects from the vaccine after a year." boils down to there is no data because we didn't look for it. There would be no data of asymptomatic long term effects of COVID if we didn't search for that either.

I have 0 problems with people at risk of serious COVID getting vaccinated, in fact I convinced my grandparents to do it. I don't really see what it buys me as a healthy 30 something year-old with no preexisting conditions, other than likely being a day out after the shot.

>We could have reached herd immunity with the vaccine by now, and variants would no longer be of concern.

How does that compute ? I thought nobody actually believed zero COVID is possible ?

>There is no mechanism for the vaccine to have some long term effect that wouldn't be apparent within a short time period give the MASSIVE number of people who have received the vaccine.

By the same logic brain effects of long COVID on asymptotic cases is impossible aince these people don't even know they had the infection and shouldn't be studied either.

Saying that the immune system is well studied and we know what happens when we don't even know the mechanism behind the long COVID sideffects is again overreaching.

And I'm not saying my "amateur conjecture" is likely true, I'm saying given the surprising sideffects of COVID on asymptomatic cases it's not really unreasonable to check this kind of things - especially when you're vaccinating a huge % of population in one step (other required immunisations happen generationally)

On one hand I'm being presented with avoiding long COVID sideffects as a reason to get vaccinated - on the other I get no proof that vaccination doesn't do similar harm and that it's actually protective of those effects.

I don't really mind social distancing measures untill people in the risk groups get vaccinated - all of my high risk contacts have been. So I don't get what we need to get out of, my government is already saying they will eliminate COVID measures after summer, UK style.

I'll get vaccinated at some point if I have to do it for travel or what not - right now I'm not convinced - the social arguments don't make much sense to me (variants will come up anyway, you can get infected and spread the virus even if vaccinated you're just reducing risk)

>The immune response from the vaccine works like any other type of vaccine immune response.

You are assuming because the mechanism is the same that the effects will be as well - it's like saying "we have this black box service we sort of have an idea of what it does and if we send it X/Y/Z we know what happens, it should work the same with W too - I've been in that scenario often enough to know that's an assumption that I'd rather see the data for.

I already saw that people in my peer group reported short term side effects like headache after getting vaccination, have taken days off from work, family members complained about dizziness the day after.

It's relatively easy to do these studies along with long COVID studies, should be insignificant even compares to money that will be spent on vaccination campaigns - so why skip out on valuable data.

>This isn't a meaningful claim for 2 key reasons. There has never been a vaccine that had serious side effects that did show up shortly after vaccination[2]. The history of mRNA treatments began as an experiment in gene therapy, but has largely ben abandoned because the effects never lasted long enough. As of 2020 this is an ongoing area of research[3]. No one has figure out how to stabilize mRNA so that it has long lasting effects.

This isn't really what I'm worried about. Right now people are talking long COVID, subtle long term brain damage and it seems like mechanisms are still unknown. So who's to say that immune system reaction triggered by vaccination isn't causing same kind of hard to detect damage. I'd be much more comfortable with the vaccine if the long COVID studies included groups :

- no vaccination/hospitalised

- no vaccination/asymptomatic

- vaccination/not infected

- vaccination/infected

I'm not a risk group and have no problems with social distancing so I'm waiting for stuff like this to come out.

I think this code is bad because it uses if/else (it should be if not abort) and it only tests/handles one error case and the log is not very valuable, would be much better to wrap the block in try catch and capture all exceptions (should be fairly obvious from exception that stripe.handleCardPayment doesn't exist)

TypScript is sort of this. It's the best of both worlds, if it wasn't built on top of JS legacy garbage type system and core types it would be ideal.

But a powerful structural type system built on a flexible object model is really a great mix - type as much as you need, ignore types when they get in the way.

I've coded in Clojure enough to know that there are cases where it completely sucks (mostly when you have to do imperative low level code). I used to have a link to a standard library implementation of channels that was downright hideous to read as an example of this (and that code transformed to Java is actually easier to follow).

Clojure has some cases where it's insane how elegant you can make the solution, but frankly static languages with good type systems and tooling come close enough but don't have the scaling downsides.

Money isn't everything, there's a status component related to those professions (especially if you are coming from poorer background) and a lot of people like the idea of being a doctor or a lawyer. TBH you have to be a certain kind of person to enjoy sitting in front of a screen 8H a day to work on stuff most people would find meaningless (eg. getting paid to optimize ad revenue, speed up PHP execution to save data center energy usage...).

Likewise being a plumber isn't that respectable either.

And let's not even get into the dating/marriage aspect of it.

I mean if they can't get Apple to include them in this (like you said you can use BT magic keyboard so clearly there's a way built-in) they have no chance at getting touchid

To people saying this is caused by use - this is irrelevant - people are upset because they use other comparable cables this way and don't have these problems nearly as often. I've noticed Apple usually has thinner cables - maybe it's that - frankly I'd prefer more robust ones.

Logitech can't even connect to the laptop via BT before you are logged in, I doubt it will get this integration.