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Graduated in 2008 right in the middle of the mortgage crisis.

It was really bad, but I was fresh out of college and had no experience.

Took me about 10 months to find a job in that market.

The market is definitely rough, but I wouldn’t say it’s that bad yet.

This was (is) me.

Love Rails, but found it very difficult to learn Ruby. It's very hard for me to read, but that may be because I come from a C# background.

If you're looking for something like Rails, I'd recommend trying out Laravel.

It's on par with Rails as far as features, ease of use, etc. And PHP was a lot easier to learn for me versus Ruby.

I would say F# is as popular as it’s ever been.

C# is still king, but it’s been getting a few features from F# the past few years.

I thought this too before I bought it, but figured “what the hell” and bought it anyway.

I haven’t played the first one, but the second one is excellent and is my favorite game of the year so far, and probably last year too. And as already mentioned, it plays great on the Steam Deck.

I highly recommend it.

This has been my experience too.

It's either what you mentioned or they have very outdated development practices.

In no way was my intention to brag. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the parent commenter's intention either. Just people reflecting and commenting on their experiences on this topic.

I'll keep in mind how comments like that come off in the future.

This has been my exact experience too. Wife and I...no trouble conceiving.

Friends in late 20's to early 30's have had a lot of trouble conceiving, i.e. they needed to do IVF.

Not sure what's going on with that, and this is purely anecdotal, but I've been hearing people having troubles having kids a lot it seems.

This was exactly me and few months ago and is also how I burned out at my last job. You can add all the front-end stuff to that list too.

I think it’s easy to say we as engineers should make things simpler. I have no idea how to do that in practice on a team though.

Once the complexity started to creep in, seems like a wave just kept sweeping everyone towards more and more complexity.

I feel the same way and can understand where the original comment is coming from. To your point, I also think I’ve reached the ceiling too salary wise.

Was talking to a recruiter who specializes in recruiting for tech and product companies. The C# positions he had topped out at what other languages started at for senior developers.

I like C# it’s just it feels like it’s all enterprise jobs with bad development practices.

Yup, fully aware.

Should’ve said “Heroku-like” instead of “Heroku for AWS”.

Reading this made me sad. I’ve wondered for a long time why no one ever bothered to build a Heroku for AWS.

My main complaint as an application developer these last few years is the amount of time I’ve had to spend wrangling infrastructure.

What did you end up moving to and how did you do it?

I’ve been noticing what you’ve posted for awhile in regards to interesting opportunities and .NET, or lack there of.

Not sure how to make the switch to something else though.

Oh, I agree with you. It absolutely comes down to the organization.

And like you said the organizations that pay very well...don't tend to use .NET. Which is what I've been seeing "in the wild".

At this point, it's just becoming increasingly hard to justify sticking with it. Especially considering I could make more money and not have to deal with so much legacy or poor development practices all the time.

In defense of those organizations though, in my experience, the interview processes have been very reasonable, i.e. no LeetCode. As long as you haven't been sleep walking through your career, it should be pretty easy to get a new position.

I feel seen with this comment and I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been feeling this way.

I'm about to start a new position that uses C#/.NET and seems like a technically mature/sophisticated organization. Finding this position was hard though.

If that fell through, I was thinking of ways I could try to switch tech stacks. As you stated, the types of companies that gravitate towards .NET are not the types of companies I want to work for anymore.

Not to mention, after talking to several recruiters, it seems like salary for .NET devs are much lower than counterparts in other languages. I'm probably at the top of what I can expect to make as a senior engineer in .NET. I spoke to a few recruiters who recruit for other stacks and my salary is what senior devs typically start at for those organizations.

As someone who programs with .NET in their day job...no probably, not.

Outside of a few areas related to DDD, event sourcing, and some distributed-system frameworks (NServiceBus and MassTransit) there's really no killer app for .NET, in my opinion.

The big selling point for .NET now is that it runs on Linux...which is not really a selling point in the grand scheme of things.