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Meanwhile Tesla CEO does proud, casual, nazi salutes, while his president friend brags about stealing elections in Pennsylvania.

I would agree in a lot of cases. But we aren't all complicit at the same level.

I know it's how Trump and Elon work: they make outrage after outrage, crime after crime, so that one shadows the other, we can't keep track, we get exhausted, etc.

But there has to be a tipping point, or we just boil like frogs in the fascism saucepan.

If this is not the tipping point, what will it be? A proud, intense, in-your-face nazi salute, the day of the inauguration. If your tipping point is when they finally come after you, you'll be all alone. It's textbook 1930s Germany.

You seem to be saying there will be no tipping point for you. People wonder how the darkest moments of history happened, and how people let it happen.

This is how.

History is watching, and you are complicit. How long are you going to justify censoring anyone against the Grand Free Speech Absolutist? What is going to be _your_ red line?

Thank god. I would love to discuss with you, maybe we could save some poor souls that are still into this from turning to full blown fascists.

I'm glad to know that some Trump supporters do have red lines. Out of curiosity, up to when did you still support Trump?

No I didn't. In the same rally?

Musk may not know vote-counting computers better than anyone else, but he certainly has the influence and leverage that would greatly help with such a task.

I don't believe you. But anyway, if you do this for free, you're just a useful idiot.

Yes, it’s sad, but I guess it’s expected. Elon bought Twitter to have a propaganda platform, use it for himself, and sell disinformation-as-a-service. Why wouldn’t he pay for astroturfing on popular websites as well? A website like HN where you can find a lot of tech people and investors. It’s easy, it’s cheap, it’s mean. I see no reason he wouldn’t.