projectorlochsa
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I do agree with that.
> Killing pigs and killing elephants is in a similar category. But it's kind of about context.
Yeah, the context being that elephants are glorified by the press, while reporting on mistreatment of pigs (or any farm practices) in the USA is considered a criminal act. [0]
That's the look-the-other-way market agent from up there. The context is also that mentioned mutated set of values.
I don't think the comparison is anywhere close to ISIS.
> Idk what the temple Grandin thing is about.
Well, no one knew you could manage a milk farm with two people, so saying that elephants can't be domesticated is a bit of a stretch.
That's for capitalism to decide (and those look-the-other-way market agents).
> It's also pink. Hit me up next time you get confused.
Difference being ethical one, not physical. Giving same moral consideration (no matter how great or small the consideration is) to elephants and pigs would be ethically consistent, yet it's quite clear that consideration isn't equal, due to some flawed/mutated value system of appeals to tradition, popularity and futility.
> Lol, I'm passingly familiar with her work. After the revolution, she's going to gulags. Idk why you bring her up tho.
A good example of how breeding docile, non-aggressive creatures can result in some seriously mind-blowing complacent, plant-like behavior (we see it in the human gulags too, though, and it's documented quite thoroughly in the history of USSR, docile humans at its finest form).
I mean, cows, pigs, chickens (dogs and cats) are the most docile creatures on earth. How would we enslave, rape, raise, slaughter them if they were angry and combatant and weren't submissive?
Breeding does wonders.
Check out any wild cattle and you'll see how easily, fearlessly they stomp their predators to death.
As for ethical problems, I see no difference between an elephant and a pig. Both are one of the smartest animals on earth. Yet, bacon! :D Given that first world countries enjoy their 99% factory farmed abominations of animal flesh, I'd say ethics was decided as a non-problem by look-the-other-way anthropocentric market agents.
edit: checkout Temple Grandin work with cattle. you can have a farm with hundreds of milk cows and have 2 people working on it (part time vet that's making all the cows pregnant and managing their calves, and one full time employee). her methods made industrial milk farms manage themselves. cows practically go to the milking robot alone, never stopping, never panicking. when I saw this being done with my own eyes, no wonder family farms can't compete without huge subsidies.
Given an animal that can produce sounds, if sounds are meaningful enough it can be a big advantage. Given more animals that produce sounds, the ones that can transmit more information will survive.
It's weird to think that there's nothing between complex (human) and simple (sheep) when it was the result of a gradual evolution. Big jumps are rare.
if implemented it would probably outperform haskell (given that monad transformers in haskell have runtime overhead, unfortunately).
That's not food, that's luxury. Subsidies aren't necessary if you are seeking luxury, it's a waste.
It's on a good path as in, it acknowledges the issue and is working through regulations to remove the dependence or drastically reduce the dependence.
[1]: http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/footprint/agriculture/soy/so...
Yes, the food wouldn't be as cheap, but at least there would be a huge incentive for people to find cheaper ways (maybe finally someone will make an effort to improve hydro/aeroponics).
Of course, capitalism is greedy, not globally optimal, so it is necessary that certain restrictions are made by law. Complex issue I guess, EU is on a good path IMO.
There are social constructs but I would not deny biology. Effect of testosterone and estrogen on behavior has been studied extensively and it is quite clear from that why men and women behave the way they do.
Is women avoiding STEM a social construct? It most definitely is. Is women having lower salaries a social construct? In some cases yes, in some cases it is quite clear that they are not as risk taking as men, and are much more agreeable (they will not risk by asking a higher salary during a job interview).
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/reddit-ceo-ellen...
A nice example of how biology created an inequality.
Women are less aggressive and assertive by nature.
Testosterone and stupidity (much more prevalent in male population) does wonders when it comes to being aggressive, assertive and risk seeking.
Why is everyone demonizing fatty foods, or sugar, when that 3500 number is screaming at us from afar?!
US citizens eat way to much and move way too little. The side effect is diabetes T2, heart attacks and all sorts of issues.
US citizens also do not know how to eat, their capitalism has failed them, the whole food business is subsidized insanely. So they are "forced" to buy highly caloric foods that kills them (because that food is cheap), and foods with high nutrient to calories ratio are too expensive. Sodie pops and milk cheaper than water, meat cheaper than vegetables, insane.