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Hah, I love the "GitLab Mature Edition" idea!

From what I have heard from users and customers, the self-hosted folks are indeed super duper happy. The nice thing about the self-hosted option is that regardless of how open an employer company maybe about sending data places, devs can try out the product. That's led to our super awesome enterprise adoption to some degree (IMHO).

Agree. It's about consistency over time (and now across companies and products with the adoption) vs perfect.

Hi there! I hear what you are saying especially if you are considering recommending the full single application. As our maturity model shares, we are better at some stages than others. So I would share parts of the product that really work for you all the time and let people experience for themselves.

Hi there! Just wanted to add my two cents here. Just like you choose to use SCM and workflow review, we have a lot of other users and customers utilizing different permutations and combinations of the various stages. Over time, various stages all move toward maturity, some faster than others. I know this is a different model than most software companies and it has its downsides. But the net positive is that we are able to provide an increasingly unified experience for DevOps. Note that at other companies the same thing happens except they market different stages as separate "products". They gain on the marketing but lose on the ultimate user benefit (again, IMHO).

What an awesome compliment for our team. Thank you!

I've been on both sides of the spectrum. At first, I couldn't ever imagine working remote. I was an office rat, spent a lot of time at my desk and then socializing with coworkers at happy hours and such. It was a super fun life. When I got the job offer at GitLab, I was super excited about the opportunity and took it in spite of it being remote.

Fast forward to a year later, my perspective has changed. It took me about 3-4 months to adjust but slowly I hit my stride. Today, I can confidently say that I am a lot more productive working all-remote. I don't have to travel or change rooms for meetings, I am fully connected to folks via Slack and Zoom and GitLab issues, and I am working in the comfiest clothes :p. So 8 hours of work in all-remote is equivalent to probably 10 hours in an office.

Socially, I do co-working calls with people, hang out in the slack channels (#dad_jokes and #dog being two favorites), and Zoom as I need to. I never feel left out. I have to say though, I would probably not enjoy being remote when others are in an office because then there is a clear hierarchy of social interactions then.

I work at GitLab and I completely agree with this! Choices for users and our industry is moving forward embracing the single application philosophy.

Glad you appreciate the GitLab experience! I agree with you that loving the product is what it is about. I am happy everyone gets free repos across the board now (whether at GitLab, GitHub, or BitBucket) since repos are basically commoditized at this point. In my opinion (shaped by our CEO Sid's perspective), all roads lead to compute.

To clarify, we are not getting into the cloud play at all. We support multi-cloud deployments of any kind now including serverless. So you can use the GitLab UI to plan, build, deploy, manage serverless apps/functions with the rest of your code. Knative helps us deploy to any cloud.

Hehe, I agree. Sadly, IMO the term has taken over and so we’re stuck with it because of the quick recognition people have to serverless ...

Yes, sorry about that! Thanks for fixing, dsumenkovic :-)

No problem at all and glad you find the candor useful. It is one of our company values to be transparent :-).

I also hear you in your concern. There is a flip side perspective to what you are saying as well where someone might be forced to uproot from their home which happens to be in a more expensive area because they would save so much elsewhere. But regardless of the specific arguments, what I have truly learned here in this thread is that we should continue the conversation in the community. I am going to sync up with the people ops org and suggest that we share our rationale in more detail in the near future and/or also incorporate the good points that were raised.

I do think it is amazing that GitLab brings these conversations to the fore because opacity has been the norm for way too long around comp and we need to change that as an industry and community.

"Additionally, the calculator's attempt to handle cost of living fails to address hot markets outside the US (hello from Montreal), treats many countries as way more homogeneous in cost of living than they really are, and gives a seemingly quite inadequate 17% adjustment for contractors. That doesn't cover legal and accounting fees, paid time off of various types, the cost and limitations in health insurance coverage attainable by one-person companies, normally employer-side retirement contributions, etc."

I, personally, did not know about the way we treat intl comp on the calculator because I do not work in people ops. I found it useful new information.