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For me, Wix was never truly an OSS project (sure, technically/formally, it is). It's for me just an MS developer workplace in disguise. As MS, it looks nicer and you don't have to support so much.

I was wrong and Rob was indeed not an MS employee??

I can remember I was at a birthday party and the entire topic of the f*cking evening was when it will be online again. With everybody checking every 23 seconds.

I left that 'party' quite early.

I feel you!!! It's soo tiring...

No real problem. By the same amount, young people are smarter and more competent, in particular regarding tech topics.

At least that's the dominant narrative since a decade. And I'm sure it's actually true, and least when the question is about knowing all youtokgram memes of the day.

> I think projects could improve by moving more of their regular workflow to invite-only mediums-- private repositories, issue trackers, etc. If someone wants to complain about your project then they can do it on their own forum, they don't get to use the projects tools as a platform to crap on the project and deprive the contributors of their freedom to ignore the noise.

Yessss!!! Or, in other words: Stop to make everything social media, stop making 'like' buttons your god, and get real again.

That would be sooooo helpful. For many parts of life.

You won't loose so much imho. It's a lot overhyped. Sure you lose all the people who are basically there for the social media factor. Well... I see no problem with that. Their perceived worth is much much higher than their real one. Social media is all about a big show. Not about actually delivering actual value.

Btw, in some regards, the private mailing list is a lot more 'open' than proprietary cloud services instead (i.e. discord).

... or you just finally realize that interaction beyond your own bubble is more complicated, harder, and more tiring, but not toxic. People are very very sensitive plants nowadays. It doesn't help. Don't try to hide people even more from reality. You did that for long enough, obviously. Don't make them even more stupid by declaring everything as toxic harassment which challenges their simple, tiktok-driven minds. We already have enough of those zombies around, who in a few decades are planned to acquire my pension.

The best idea imho is the assumption that people have some intelligence. I know, it's an utopia. But, well... Give them a way to block users. Help law enforcement when something actually criminal happens. For the rest, just let it happen, and let the people deal with it. As in real life. There is no other chance. Making the masses even more stupid than they are today (by hiding reality from them) is not the way to go. It never was. Let people interact with each other on their own. There cannot be a higher instance which 'manages' that in some way. Censorship isn't better when you call it 'moderation'. And don't declare everything as a harassment or worse. It's just a facet of communication to also communicate unfortunate things. People are veeeery sensitive plants since some time.

And again, for actual crime, it's not the forum moderators at all who should lead some actions. That would really be problematic.

Yes, it _can_. Sure.

You rlly think the vogons have made prank pizza orders, swatted him, or anything like that?

C'mon, get real. Here is a new comment that you can downvote just because you hate the statement. He didn't get as much appreciation and accolade on social media as he wanted. That's basically it. Without knowing any details about the case. I know humans, and the story is obvious. ;)

... maybe that's what they meant with 'clout-chaser'?

At least they are something that actually exists on their own, and not just a Microsoft cloud entity.

I've seen rough people everywhere on the internet, but that's at least very delighting.

It's an intentionally edgy statement, got it...

The major problem: With any idea around decreasing all that social media circus, and coming back to the actual things a bit more, you lose entire generations of human beings nowadays whose only reason to exist, whose only driver, whose only source of energy, is their smartphone with the right social media silo apps installed.

It's at least a decade too late to stop that apocalypse. It will not get better before a big boom suddenly forces them from outside. Our societies are obviously not strong and not resilient enough for more than a few decades of existance before it makes boom.

Also good to consider for that tradeoff: Those people are completely fine to ignore you without some Zuck accounts.

Bring that together with your idea about friendship before you run behind them.

Maybe it's fine for you. Maybe your conclusion is that it's not worth the thing.

It's not a new topic. For me, iit was around 15 years ago. I never had FB or WA. Not even for a day. And that brought a lot of friendships to an end. Most of my friendships in fact. And that was sad!! But well, no other way would even be an option, admittedly! It's sad, but it was the best I could do.

I had a dream recently, where Elon Musk said the following:

I'm not actually the bad guy you think I am. It was basically all a show. You had suuuuuuch a hard and looong time understanding the danger of all these corporate social media silos. Where we control what opinions are visible and what not so much. Social media (in that particular fashion) was always a trap, a problem to definitely avoid, since day 1, but it was sooooooo teeeeerribly hard to make you understand.

So I though, well, if you are all too stupid to understand it, I will make a veeeeeery bizarre and freaky show for you that you will never forget. It will be so unreal, even you all will actually _get_ it now!!! Because it's such an important lessons for the upcoming future...