panhandlr
Joined 13 years ago
Joined 13 years ago
"There is no difference to running an executable. "
... There are these following differences.
1. That url, assuming no malicious 3rd-party/nation-state is spoofing the response, could return any different version of the installer resource at any given time.
2. That url might not always be available, for any number of reasons, and how is someone who wants to "discover" this software when they are looking through their available package list?
3. Who knows what that url is "suppose to do" ... there is no signing process, peer review process, nothing, you get whatever the apache server on the other side of that HTTP request wants to give you, and your gonna send that right into your root shell...
4. Unlike a package, sitting in my personal safe, self host, audited, self-verified debian package repository mirror ... this URL might not work tomorrow, it might not work at 3:35am when my primary server took a shit and i need to rebuild the whole stack... who knows what this URL will do in between subsequent runs... it could return 2 different things when I am trying to build a cluster of this product.
This, so much this.
I was actually extremely excited over a similar product "flynn"... but they have also lost their mind when it comes to installation: https://flynn.io/docs/installation
> sudo bash < <(curl -fsSL https://dl.flynn.io/install-flynn)
Seriously?
How is that any easier than just providing a package for any given distro?
I mean, for fucks sake, just give me the URL to a tarball with a fucking Makefile in it. I can handle the rest, thank you very much.
The security concerns alone should force any sane system engineer to never pipe curl to sudo'ed bash process.
Isn't physical access security like OpSec 101?
1. Open an exchange. 2. Collect real money in exchange for fake money. 3. "Get hacked" losing all the fake money and keeping all the real money.
How do you officially investigate someone stealing your monopoly money?
Where is the FDIC insurance? Exactly what are they suppose to tell the police? The FBI? ... oh thats right, nothing, because they are not a bank, and the only thing "stolen" was some ones and zeroes off a hard-drive.
Seriously though... where is the police report on this? Or any of the other hacked bitcoin exchanges for that matter?