overdrivetg
Joined 17 years ago
Joined 17 years ago
As a starting point, here is a good intro article from WIRED that you might find useful:
https://www.wired.com/brandlab/2017/02/tech-transfer-lab-mai...
And as Facebook shows, "everyone shouting and whoever gets the loudest wins[1]" definitely sucks too. Though I wouldn't be surprised if there were at least some lessons from the creation / history of RRoO that could actually translate.
[1] http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-shouting-clas...
Possibly, but delays in construction are what kill you. You can't really FedEx overnight new structural steel framing components, so now you're blocked until they can get
a. rebuilt, and
b. freighted out to you
And those who can't get shunted down into the "Payday Loan" tier of finance and they have to dig themselves back out with the equivalent of deposit-backed credit cards.
But few people will choose a deposit-backed card when they have the option of trading identity for better pricing / convenience. If the online ad industry has taught us anything it is that mainstream consumers will trade their data for even the smallest of considerations.
Even if decentralized financial identity would be an improvement (and it is not clear that it would be), a vision with no practical incentive to get there from here is just the basis for another startup destined for whatever is the spiritual successor to f*ckedcompany.com.
Get 3 cards and pick one to be the prize. Your mathematically-challenged partner gets to put them down each time.
You pick a card, they remove one of the other cards and then you always switch.
I made like $50 from someone this way one time =)
I'm not totally heartless - I took him to lunch on me afterwards to lessen the blow ;-)
If you really want to drill the point home, offer to keep playing more & more batches of 10 until they've had enough...
Rent SUBSIDIES are a hidden redistribution as you discuss.
Rent CONTROL forces recent transplants to subsidize longtime residents
Ie. gov prevents raising rents to market levels for longtime tenants. They are less likely to move, driving up demand for the remaining housing, which is the only stock available for newer residents.
This then costs newcomers more, while longtime residents avoid paying the market rate on their housing - effectively subsidizing the in-place tenants.
Looking again at averages [1], we have average SF rent in 2018 at $3787, so taxes account for roughly 1/3 (32%) of the rent cost.
And let's also compare LA at 2.83 persons/household [2] and $2371 in avg rent [3], so tax per household is $583, or about 25% of rent.
I was just curious to compare that - although you are right that property tax is only $1.7B of SF's $5.5B General Fund revenue [4]. It turns out that most of the rest are Business Taxes and "Other Local Taxes", which look like maybe Transfer Tax is a big piece?
...but if your argument is that SF taxes things other than property tax to raise most of their tax revenue, you are correct, but total business taxes are only $880M, or averaging about $26K/yr.
If you look at an average Starbucks, they're pulling in $880K/yr gross or $200K net [5], so business taxes end up at ~3% of gross, plus SF sales tax of 8.5% means you're paying 11.5% or $0.69 on your $6 cuppa joe.
Expensive, yes - but probably not the major reason rents are high. The rent costs on a 1500sf Starbucks might be as high as $80/sqft/yr = $120,000 - 4.6x the impact that SF business taxes have.
So as far as the numbers go, it looks like supply and demand pushing rental prices up are the primary cost drivers in SF, not any sort of "hidden" SF taxes.
[1] https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-ren...
[2] https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/losangelescitycalifornia
[3] https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/ca/lo...
[4] https://sfmayor.org/sites/default/files/CSF_Budget_Book_June...
According to [1] from 2018, "Roughly half of the budget consists of self-supporting activities at the City’s Enterprise departments"
So that leaves $5.5B in General Fund taxes.
According to [2], in 2017 SF had 884,363 residents with 13.4% under 18, so 765,858 adult residents.
$5.5B divided over 765,858 taxpaying adults is $7,181/adult/yr, or just under $600/mo.
You can roll that up into households if you want, but it feels more illustrative to have the number be per taxpaying adult IMO. Having said that, I'll buy your $1,400/household/month number as being basically about right.
I don't disagree with your point about high taxes, but I did want to actually see what the accurate numbers were. Thanks for the interesting discussion.
I'm in LA so I ran the numbers down here for comparison... We turn out to tax at $262/adult/mo, so SF's effective city tax rate is about 2.3x vs Los Angeles.
[1] https://sfmayor.org/sites/default/files/CSF_Budget_Book_June...
[2] https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/sanfranciscocountycaliforn...
This Quora answer[1] suggests it's more like $3300/person/yr. The 2010 Census says SF has 345,811 households, or about 2.35 people per household. So $3300 * 2.35 / 12 =~ $650/mo/household in SF.
[1] https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-San-Francisco-make-in-ta...
They still need an optometrist on-site, and they have a bunch of sample frames you can try on and order right there, and/or have sets you like sent directly to you to try on later so your partner can weigh in / you can take you time, etc.
Glasses take about a week once ordered and are typically priced such that they're fully covered by insurance. I felt like they were comparable to Warby Parker quality as well.
I was a guinea pig to give them feedback and it was VERY slick - I feel like it took only a few minutes. Way better than the A/B optometrist process and opaque and expensive frame / coatings upsell.
Anyways, apologies for sounding like infomercial - it's just they do a really good job with an upgrade on the kind of device you're talking about so I figured I'd share exactly how it works.
I feel like their main limitation is finding optometrists in new cities who are willing to "try something new" to run diagnosis events - who unsurprisingly tend to be younger doctors less invested in the legacy diagnosis model.