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IoT was an example, a glaring one at that.

IPv6-lacking hardware and software definitely do exist in the wild, have you seen how some programs from incompetent developers accept only IPv4 addresses in the config files? I think all of us have seen at least one such program.

Often times it's just a matter of using another function to parse the address string. But you are shit outta luck if the program is closed source.

It still is. A lot of IoT and "smart" devices are still dreadfully slow in updating their software.

I have seen people suggesting this before, but it's problematic for a few reasons:

- If you are managing the 4to6 mappings manually, it's obviously not going to be scalable. Just to give people an idea, websites nowadays can connect to 10+ IPs in a single page due to CDN load balancing and stuff.

- If you are handling the mappings automatically, such as by monitoring DNS queries and creating dynamic mappings based on that, the issues become more insidious: applications with hardcoded IP literals would fail without an obvious reason.

That explains a lot of the sentiments I've seen on HN then...

I, unfortunately, have been on CGNATed residential internet since 2016, though I used to still get a public IP on request (they stopped doing that though.) I live in South East Asia, for context.

Without IPv6 my only choice would have been relying on a centralized service like Zerotier and Tailscale.

You can't selectively use IPv6 in the WAN and IPv4 in the LAN.

How would an IPv4 client send a packet to an IPv6 server? The IPv4 packet has only 4 bytes to spare for the destination address.

You can't.

Anything longer, even if it's just 1 bit, would require a new IP version.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm, Poe's law and all.

But if you are living in a Western country, then you are probably blessed with CGNAT-free residential internet.

It's always the same with those "I hope IPv6 were just IPv4 with more octets" proposals on Hacker News, aka Godwin's law of the Internet Protocol.

It turns out when you ignore the hardest part of the problem, you can always make a good-looking proposal!

You are telling me ::192.168.0.1 is not immediately visible as 16-4 bytes?

Fine, let's change the question.

Without counting, how many zeroes are there in 192.168.0.0.0.0.0.1?

>Eg 192.168.0.1 becomes 0.0.0.0.192.168.0.1

How is this different from ::192.168.0.1? :)

Those who take their mere opinions as the truth, are bound to be misled.

The subscription plan from Z.ai doesn't stop you from using harnesses other than Z Code though?

And I am not sure why you are so worked up over it -- even meta-commentary wise, you have been shitting on everyone in this thread and your comments are in general very inflammatory. Stop that.

Declaring a technology-in-transition dead is truly a take.

It's like declaring SSL/TLS dead in 2012 because some websites were not using it. (Yes, I remember the dark times when even authentication data was transmitted over plain text.)

>HDMI, DP, etc. are so successful because they are by out-of-the-box backwards compatible with their predecessors

Takes on Hacker News can truly be wild sometimes.

I certainly don't recall being able to use DP on a VGA monitor without some sort of adapter!

>no garbage collector, no automatic reference counting, no GIL

The page is triggering my AI alarm.