olsonjeffery

Fort Sumter. You want to let Texas have nukes?

race to the bottom.

Winning what? At raising maternal mortality? At childhood asthma? At poisoning groundwater?

What is Texas winning at?

> were they charged and convicted with subversion, treason, or anything like a felony? Because that's what happen in HK.

Not yet. But it’s obtuse bordering on disingenuous to claim this isn’t on the table, given rhetoric from politicians (current and former). Or is eliminationist rhetoric and political repression okay as long as it isn’t done the way China does it?

Also, are you familiar what how the anti-Cop City protest movement has been treated in Georgia?

Honestly I want to know if you’re speaking from ignorance or malice.

This is so bleak, and the reason these bromides against CEOs appear is because this system of global capitalism is intent on commoditizing everything; even a CEO’s skill set.

Some people (either CEOs themselves or temporarily embarrassed wage workers) will bristle at this because it’s written from the perspective of warning/mocking CEOs who so readily automate-away workforces.

But an honest accounting would recognize that these automation processes have been happening for many decades, now. And maybe the CEO is diminished, but that’s besides the point that all of this just serves to accumulate wealth to the capital class, who’ve almost become sovereign (when Bezos, Musk, Andreeson et al can conduct independent foreign diplomacy or get a dedicated seat in the UNSC, I will be happy to revise this).

Everything is up for grabs, and if a board of ancient mummies can enslave a populace with an AI as well as with a flesh-and-blood C-suite, then they will. Because of the pressures to optimize and deliver more value that undergird our current society!

On the upside: an LLM probably lies less than a human CEO.

“just putting the facts out there” while stating a truism devoid of context is not a constructive contribution.

You make no comments on the impact of this choice beyond the nominal cost savings. Or does your lack of comment signal your perspective?

What even is your point?

Please expand on the tension between the competing passages of “We have the technology to pause the worst effects..” and “It’s far from a complete solution”.

The phrase “since the dawn of humanity” is doing a lot of work in this comment. On a long enough timeline, the “world has ended” multiple times. This isn’t doomerism, it’s a pragmatic view from a biologist’s perspective.

Also as others pointed out, you misinterpret or misrepresent the interviewee’s words by placing “the end of the world” alongside TFA’s as though a thoughtful discussion with domain experts (in biology) is the same as the ravings of apocalyptic cranks.

Do you have an argument besides the ad hominem directed at “these people among us”?

I thought this article (a polemic and critical reflection on New Atheism) would be interest to the HN community.

History has shown us that a lot of “intellectual movements” loved by technologists et al have gone nowhere or otherwise been a joke:

- Rationalism: Styling itself as a rigorous way to interrogate reality to chart the best path forward (nurtured by the lesswrong community), its crowning achievement was Roko’s Basilisk, a hilarious “doomsday scenario” that only holds true if you happen to have a VERY specific set of beliefs about AGI and what its motive would be (ie the priors you must hold to believe RB are de facto religious)

Effective Altruism: Same as above, but (supposedly) tied to material pursuit of improving life for humanity as a whole; in practice, another rich tech brat playground and favored mindset of at least one multi-billion dollar fraud; also EA-motivated actors haven’t made a dent in any measurable global indicator of health/happiness, so what is all that money going for? Could it be think tanks?

And New Atheism: just a stalking horse for evopsych sex pests and neocons in academia (see the support for the war on terror, obsession with “western values” ,positions on campus protest post 10/7, etc… the article covers it well)

Putting this together: I think that “our community” isn’t very good at philosophy and the “lifestyles” we endorse end being the positions of culture-war conservatives (ie transphobia on the basis of “scientific reality”) or economic libertarians and white supremecist freaks like Moldbug.

I’d also like to be able to say I’m against ideology, but really I’m not. You can probably guess my perspective by what I devalue in my comment above. We are all reflections of our effect on the world, and I think the effect of the three “movements” above has been negative.