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If something is working but it is ugly, sketchy, or I feel there may be a more apt abstraction or generalization of the problem, every other human being on the planet has persistently turned that situation into an exhausting argument. If the code works, it works, right? And all this shit I talk about is pointless because it works. And I have to fruitlessly construct an argument that would appeal to someone who cares nothing other than a complete ticket.
LLMs are at least not needlessly combative and incurious as to think that every approach but the first one we try is a pointless waste of time.
* Of course do whatever you want! * Nah I'm a big dumb idiot who doesn't know whats good for him so ask me in 3 days when I've hopefully come to my senses.
I think a simple law would fix this
If no wasn't an option, you did not establish consent.
you DESERVE misery. If you are suffering, then you are the cause.
I feel I should hate this line of thinking... But it's too common. I can't hate all of humanity. Instead, I know to fear others. I know to never ask for help. This belief is so common that to do otherwise is self destructive.
If you had gone to the police they would have blamed you.
Your husband resolved it because it wasn't "his" problem. He didn't "cause" it so could not be blamed. Because as far as everyone else is concerned, the reason you had that problem was because "you weren't trying"
it's not true.
Of course... That's the quiet part. The out loud part is just dismissing everything you say and passing you over for promotion.
The objections you have raised, the things you have said. I really understand what you mean. There's evidence all around that the aspects of our experience isn't alien at all. Why can't others see that? At this point I think that not seeing it is necessary mental infrastructure for some people. It's a bridge over an abyss that for us broke.
I think the solace I get is that this line of work tends to funnel people of our disposition into it. So we find ourselves less alone than we normally would.
for disabilities well... That one I dunno. I don't have a good concept of what kinds of UI are most convenient for each type of accessibility case.
And it's a little tempting to get lost in the weeds of who watches the watchers, but to be honest even if implemented in hacker news case, the mods themselves could vet flags for anomalies. Just this on its own would serve as a force multiplication for HN mods.
For more decentralized forms of moderation. One method might just be a simple flag appeal. Circles back to the community, they can discuss if the rule that is cited is fair, and if it wasn't possibly remove or limit flagging abilities of those who cited the rule incorrectly. And possibly some increased punishment if the appeal fails? There are lots of options there. Big wide design space.
I do think the direct text highlighting has a few important features. The Sybil attack resistance is one. That was one of the OP's primary concerns. Also, clarity on what rule was broken and why is very important, and a given rule can be verbose. It might not be obvious what specifically in a given rule was the reason for the violation. Direct highlighting lets flaggers more directly communicate what the issue is, without opening the communication channel up for a flame war.
buuut...
I will also mention that these agent files are typically generated by agents. And they're pretty good at it. I've previously used agents to dissect unfamiliar code bases in unfamiliar languages and it has worked spectacularly well. Far far FAR better than I could have done on my own.
I have also been shocked at how dumb they can be. They are uselessly stupid at their worst, but brilliant at their best.
It would work like this: When you flag a post for breaking the rules, the community's guidelines will pop up. You are then asked in this window to highlight the relevant section or sections of those rules that this post has violated. And I don't mean just "select which rule was violated", I mean "use your cursor and highlight the text of the rules that were violated." (with support for highlighting multiple sections if so desired).
This serves the following functions:
1. Communicates why something was flagged (obviously).
2. Forces the person who's flagging the submission to actually read the rules.
3. The subjectivity of the highlighting system is used to make Sybil attacks more obvious. I'll explain why after this list.
4. It differentiates flagging from downvoting. Downvoting is for saying "I don't like this". Flagging is for saying "This violates our community's rules".
As to why this helps reveal Sybil attacks: There are several subjective points on what, where, and how people will highlight rules. Should punctuation be included or not? Should the key word in the rule be highlighted? The key sentence? The whole section? What about examples? Should we include them? Or only highlight them? Users operating in good faith will cluster around common points in common areas, but will have different ways of doing so. So, if a block of users all have: the same input, in the same way, clustered around the same time, then it was likely a Sybil attack.
This system doesn't require that it de-anonymize the people who submit flags, but it does provide a form of publicly visible transparency as to why something was flagged.
Edit: I forgot to make clear, you would be able to see a heat map of the rules that were highlighted for a flagged post.
I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on this idea.
Truly perverse, but it works.
I agree with you... but the reality is that there's a wide contingent of people that are not capable of understanding "people don't know the same things as me". So they need some other reason.
I think it's a pretty good idea. I'm just wondering how this translated to other systems.
All this needs to work is the ability to mark blocks of the document as "public" so only that gets published properly. Any possibility of doing this currently or interest in supporting in the future?
Additionally: you would be surprised how infrequently you have to switch to chrome
help me understand that position.
Soooo youtube premium costs $13 CAD, You're saying that google would make MORE money off me if I cancelled that, turned off my ad blocker and just watched videos with the ads?
For things like LLM the inference cost is higher than it is to deliver a video.
What you just said was shocking to me. Absolutely shocking. Where can I find more information?