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Thank you for all the follow up posts on this thread... It strikes me they're probably taking up as much, if not more, time just in the clarifications!

In 2000 came across a binary space partition algo that did this, but used a small scheme interpreter to codegen the c++ BSP code. Would love to find out the library name... have now forgotten it.

Shilling XYtech's repurposed Intel/12-core/64GB/matte-screen/2TB/VGA/Trackpoint/USBC/ laptops! Nothing better imo, unless he adds an E-Ink option!

This is exactly what I meant. Particularly visible in richer social strata in SEA, especially in the Philippines and to a lesser extent in Malaysia & Singapore. The amount of sucrose consumed in that first country beggars belief. Everything at breakfast is full of sucrose, even the pork & of course, bacon.

Also, I appreciate your use of the singular "they" :-)

Just wait until we get viable electric mo'bikes! I don't remember exactly, but I think Michael Cyzsz was working on transmissions before he passed away.

yes, I agree with you. It's just at the time I was unaware that brain chemistry could be genetically dependent; although as you say that's pre-disposition, and the trigger can be trauma, and sometimes knowing you are adopted can be the source of that trauma, thus triggering the behaviour.

Probably because it comes through as tall claims based on anecdata? But I've lived in Europe, America, Asia, ME & Australia (also visited every SEA country) and the prevalence of male feminization & rich-people obesity (esp central adiposity) in certain regions is quite staggering.

And almost every single person I know personally with difficulty conceiving (various races, various countries, various diagnoses including ectopic/fibroids/undiagnosed) had some obvious-to-me metabolic-syndrome/cholecalciferol/ferritin issues going on, particularly Asian-sub-continentals in northern sun-starved climates who were not supplementing cholecalciferol.

Aside: How does one tell downvotes? I suppose I should look in the FAQ. IIRC only established members can downvote. Despite my account being from HN's 2007 inception, I do not have enough established-karma to have my own downvote button. So I generally don't bother about it, as it's a bit of a circular dead-end karma-spiral which I had thought the HN mechanics were supposed to avoid.

adoptee turned to hard drugs (opiods) in his teens. the opinion was: what do you expect, the father was an addict too. at the time I was shocked as I was so firmly in the nurture camp.

Disclaimer: I am quite firmly in that camp now, although at first I considered them all nutters. Some thing has been driving global ill-health in our post-disease world (excluding viruses) from 1920 onwards... imho there's clearly a complex ætiology with factors such as:

- carbohydrate (especially fructose) vs animal-protein/-fat consumption

- types of fat (our bodies only contain certain kinds)

- xenœstrogen & hormones of all types not just phyto-œstrogens

- Vitamin D, Magnesium, ferritin, pre-eclampsia, anæmia (lack of hæme iron consumption)

- more recently the whole statin-cholesterol debacle, Goodhart's law in action

I heard the most bizarre & unexpected opinion first-hand from an obgyn. Prior to this I was firmly in the nurture camp of nature/nurture, but this obgyn's opinion on adoptions shocked me out of my complacency.

I am hoping Sapolsky's latest book may shed some light on the subject without the Wade/Murray "bell curve" implications.

I find this topic very interesting. My observation (anecdata-lly, but I would love to see RCTs or perhaps a cleanly designed ANOVA study) is that these symptoms of infertility are particularly (world-wide) prevalent in people who have (usually undiagnosed) metabolic syndrome & low cholecalciferol.

In almost all South-east Asian countries in particular, I have noticed high levels of sucrose consumption so I am curious if Korea is the similar to SEA, or if either of these factors apply to either of you?

Koreans have famously long working hours, but as you are not there, those stress factors should likely not apply to you.

Another point to note is that I have heard adoption is at least as difficult as IVF, emotionally & financially speaking, although there's less physical pain. At least IVF can point you to where the problem lies (the knowledge of that can be disconcerting) providing you perhaps avenues to mitigate/ameliorate those factors, which could improve your overall QoL and also lead to better health-outcomes.

Have you tried the Ear Hero Bluetooth adapter?

It would be interesting to see the correlation in families with a history of diabetes, and to correlate it to T2 diabetes or "metabolic syndrome". I have anecdata about this, but I wonder if any studies are being done in family-groups, such as identical twins etc.