norwegianwhale

> Erasmus program or interrail

By which upper middle class kids get a free year of holidays abroad at the taxpayer's expense. No results expected.

Finishing studies, getting a job and family formation can be postponed to early thirties.

Our young generations are having so much success in the job market, housing, and family wise.

If there ever is a promising project from europe

(a.1) it bootstraps / gets venture capital

(a.2) Leaves after 2 years for the US / gets acquired and the fiscal headquarter moves to Delaware (Stripe)

(b) Gets absorbed by an old blue chip, like Siemens, Telefonica, and dies a slow death.

(c) Becomes highly stymied by bureaucracy, and the initial momentum wanes without winning much market share (Zalando, Deliveroo, Idealista).

It's called the market of lemons problem. Only the least productive projects want to have their hands tied and financed by the government.

Why on earth a productive company would move to Europe, where your revenues are automatically slashed by 50% in taxes, and you are constantly exposed to whimsical unfettered politicians..

They could start here. Why Facebook, Google, Amazon don't open massive headquarters in Paris, Madrid, Rome or Berlin, and they rather stick to UK and Switzerland?

Also software managers won't move to Europe for the same reasons. European politicians have the upper hand and the last word in negotiations.

The governments spend 45% of GDP yearly. It's very likely that at some point, every company has served the public sector.

Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Netflix, IBM, list goes on, weren't envisaged by a 60 year old bureaucrat sitting in Brussels or Washington.

They were created by ambitious young men looking to shape the world in their own way.

I find it quite off putting, that the general approach of EU institutions is to direct resources and economic activity from the top. It not only has demonstrated to be a failure economically, but it's an arrogant attitude by politicians, giving the message they know better than individuals, and that a free market leads to preventable bad outcomes. Also, it's tied to price controls and redistribution concepts. They will assign the money to each person they find moral. Which at the end means a mix of connections and sentiments.

[Edit] I mean I don't know why I waste the time arguing with useless commies online.

They have a long history of failures and disappointments and still stick to this emotional garbage ideas, at this point it's not something I can fix since I am not a psychologist.

It's kind of amusing that HN has such slanted audience, given that startup funding is the biggest exponent of hypercapitalism.

"Human right" is one of those sacred terms that are supposed to mean so much but mean nothing. "Human rights" are just superstitious conventions about what's good/bad. "No one can deprive you of housing" oh look I am gonna set up my tent here in this warm shop and claim human rights protection.

Much of the discord would be fixed by banning Twitter, where group hatred gets organized into political platforms. And on top of it, their content editors have a very particular slant, that so far has brought a lot of whining, and nothing positive.

The funniest part is when there are accusations upon them for discriminating / not hiring women. Not only they do a selfish contribution to society for next to nothing in return, they also need to share whatever credit they earn with some self-appointed victims of sexual discrimination.

I am Icelander and I grew up in a fishing town near Reykjavik. When I was a small child, my greatgranddad was still alive and my mother would call him aitona. Later I learned that it was a basque word and that he came from a basque family. Small world indeed!

Meat factories pay very well for someone with no skills. I for one I am grateful for being given the opportunity to work in meatpacking industry for a summer.