minitrollster

Um I think this might be on you and not them.

This is one of the most insane things I've ever read.

Slow down chief. GP's point might have been strong but no need to jump to insults.

Let's see how long it takes for this one to be removed.

I am experiencing the wifi sync issues quite heavily. My iPhone 5 might sync 1 out of 5 times, probably less.

I wouldn't say that iTunes is as bad as he says, since it's not crashing very often for me when using it normally. But every single time I plug in and iOS device it hangs, for up to 30 seconds, and at the end it either crashes completely or recovers. Note that this only started happening on iTunes 11.

I've had issues synching with the cable, iTunes telling me it just can't sync right now.

At one point, I plugged my phone in to sync it since it wouldn't over wifi. Except this time iTunes decided to re-synch ALL my music (over 4000 songs).

The App Store constantly harasses me to update the Twitter app, that I have deleted over a year ago.

I am on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB of RAM, and I don't believe I have done something to my computer, like you say. It is working perfectly otherwise.

How is that relevant?

I do not think that kids should be trained like pets. They are more intelligent and react to a more nuanced approach. My point about punishment just means that bad actions should be sanctioned and good actions rewarded.

My parents never physically punished me, but as soon as I was old enough to understand what was going on, just knowing that I'd disappointed them would make me feel extremely bad. There's no resentment there. They taught me how to behave in a way that is acceptable in society and if I misbehaved I was aware that I was wrong. Hopefully that's how everything would go.

But as always, there will be bad apples (and good ones, too). What do you do when someone's such a sociopath that they don't care when they hurt other people? That's when I believe that punishment should be carried on by the society and not the parents, in the form of jail, probation, juvenile court, etc.

>The concept that one class of humans is the "punishers" who are teaching the other class(es) underlies most (if not all) fascist/authoritarian/racist ideologies of the last 3 centuries.

So I'm Hitler now.

>legalize drugs and prostitution and 99% of these problems go away.

Seriously?

After reading this, I can only say one thing: you're living in fantasyland. This is the real world, not some libertarian utopia. And regarding your last point, what about pedophiles? Rapists? Should we just surround them with love and forgiveness?

Here's the thing: actions have consequences. Bad actions result in bad consequences. Such is the learning process of lots of species. Do you think training pets by reinforcing good behaviour and punishing bad behaviour is modern and supported by "state propaganda", whatever that means?

I do believe that prison systems can be good at rehabilitation. Maybe not in the US, where you seem to be from, but it's working in many other countries in the world, look at the Nordic countries' prison system if you want proof. And even if the prison system doesn't manage to rehabilitate the person, it serves as a punishment. I don't see what's wrong with punishing behaviour that has been deemed unacceptable by society. At least it's better than doing nothing, and in my opinion has more of an impact than doing nothing and surrounding him "with a loving community".

I don't think the point people are making when they say he should be handed to the authorities is that they'll fix him. The point is that he should answer for his actions. Fixing the darkness or not, the kid DID make death threats and make someone's life miserable by unacceptable and criminal means. Criminals need rehabilitation, but they also need to be taught that their behaviour is unacceptable.