michaelpb

Ah yes... "Project Ginger" was promised to fully revolutionize society, bigger than the Internet, etc. People do seem to forget how old the tech-hype circus is, and with a lot of the same promises, always "too early yet" with the promised benefits lying just around the corner.

There's a social media trick where you make some really obvious mistake (eg pronounce "Mario" as "mah-RYE-oh" in a video) and then rely on people's "well akshully" in the comments causing you to go viral. Regardless if it's intentional or not, it's probably working since this already has 18 comments after only being posted a half hour ago hahah

Yeah, I TDD / TFD as much as I can, much simpler. Even just stubbing out a few simple smoke tests that I red/green/refactor saves so much time. For me, I think I spend less time writing code as well, since it forces me to be clear to myself about requirements early on (even if the story/ticket wasn't clear enough), and keeps a "check" on my natural tendency to go down rabbit-holes before properly speccing out non-essential features or tempting optimizations. I ask myself: Does this help me pass the tests and complete the feature? If no, then I need to sit on my hands and not get all code-cowboy trigger-happy :)

Are you asking for writing tips? I'm not OP, but for one "someone who isn't deaf" is 4 words and has a complex structure while "hearing person" is 2 words and has a simple structure, and thus is more effective writing.

It seems strange to me to suggest more complicated structures to replace simpler ones! Is there another reason to use the more complicated structure?

The goal of research like this is to motivate exactly that (changing the companies)

Oh, I don't know about the state of the art, I was just speculating. I'd imagine this technique would only useful if you want to support a MongoDB app at the same time as building new features with Postgres, and then gradually phase out the MongoDB interface (e.g. gradually transitioning between a v1 prototype and a v2 rewrite)

If it's not much data (eg ~100k or something), and you don't need any sort of gradual transition, then I'd do something really KISS like dump into a CSV or something and then re-import with whatever the new database management system has for importing files

Yeah, I think the person we are replying to is taking this a lot more negatively than I intended. I always sort of thought it was kind of an "open secret" that this stuff went on, at least here in SV / Bay Area. Perhaps elsewhere, where engineers don't hop around jobs every year or two, this sounds more like an insult or accusation?

Huh, so if we are trotting out experience credentials, I have also worked with thousands of developers (I guess?) over the last ~20 years as well. My first programming language was Apple BASIC on an Apple II, and I haven't stopped learning since!

I think we use this term differently, perhaps? This term is not intended to be an attack, but rather just an acknowledgment of a common type of technical debt that results from people getting influenced by marketing teams and choosing tech based on how "trendy" it seems. Sometimes this might be done explicitly since they are intending to jump ship anyway... I've had conversations at the bar out of earshot of "the suits" where this exact topic was discussed! Most of the time it's not intentional or explicit, but just novice engineers directed by poor management to greenfield apps, and then falling for marketing claims and choosing based on how "trendy" the marketing claims it is vs real, observed needs. MongoDB is still getting taught at many bootcamps and coding curriculums as an "SQL, but better for beginners since you don't need that annoying schema thing!"

Hm, well, I never said that ANYONE who uses MongoDB is guilty of resume driven development. I specifically only indicated the ones that WERE chosen via resume driven development. Unless you were replying to the wrong comment?

Oh wow, I had no idea! I've never heard of this. Thanks for letting me know.

I only knew it as the name of "Planet Mongo", the main planet in the Flash Gordon universe, an old science fiction comic that has been rebooted many times (which also had loads of extremely racist anti-Chinese elements)

Could be that! Another terrible name hahah. Although in their defense I get the "cockroach" analogy, while "gimp" is just an offensive insult and/or a very NSFW BDSM term, and has no other meaning, which makes conversations even more awkward.

Yeah, I could imagine this being a useful step to migrate away from MongoDB. I suspect there are plenty of "resume-driven development" MongoDB installations out there that could use something like this.

GIMP?

If that's what you're referring to, then yup #1 worst-named FOSS ever.