mbrutsch

Ah, substantive comments, just what we were looking for.

Ooh, comments not visible when not logged in. Very 2009.

Only if one assumes these groups do not overlap. Anonymous is anonymous for good reasons.

Lie with dogs, you get fleas. I have zero sympathy for those who fall prey to closed ecosystem BS like this, including my own wife. People just don't listen.

Choking to death on your own vomit is what you consider a painless death? I hope you have a painless death.

> A DNR is not an order to cease basic life-support post-resuscitation.

And no one said it was; no one even hinted at it.

> For which of these does he deserve to suffer for, more than he has already?

The first, the violation of her express written wishes that led to her "painless death".

Sadly, he's dead, which means his suffering has ended. The rest of us get to continue remembering until we too pass.

My mother had a DNR. She contracted meningitis, and died. She was resuscitated, suffered severe brain damage, and lived another 2 years as a semi-vegetable before dying in her sleep after choking on her own vomit.

If I believed in such things, I would hope my stepfather is in Hell.

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>You don't want to be working with someone who can't work with other people.

That describes me pretty well, and those with whom I work love me. They just keep me in my little box, leave me alone and let me do my work. But they are also a grown-up company that doesn't make people wear 27 hats. PMs do their job, Infrastructure does theirs, Client Support does theirs, etc. Not every job has the same requirements as every other job.

You should know the routine by now. ;)

> I actually upvoted you, for the record.

That's why I said "you and my downvoters", rather than "you and my other downvoters". I am apparently very bad at making simple points.

> But you drew a distinction between "in-house standards" and "the framework's standards"

One is used in-house for all things relevant, one applies to a framework. In that, they are distinct.

> (which are by definition probably taken from widely adopted standards).

Probably.

> If you were implying that those two things might be identical then you did a bad job of conveying that.

sigh. Two things can be true at the same time. I give up.

> naively doing everything your own personal way (including at the team/company level).

You, and my downvoters, all assume (naively) that any in-house standard must somehow be different than "widely-adopted coding standards (that most frameworks probably use)". Obviously, that need not be true, and in my limited 40 years of experience, it rarely is. Not sure how you even got there.

> As someone else pointed out in this thread, a great advantage of established frameworks is that they provide a coding standard for a team.

So it's useful for young, inexperienced developers. Do you kids really not have in-house coding standards anymore, or do you rely on your toolsets to provide that for you?

I've been trying to kill Cortana since I upgraded to Windows 10, she's not dead yet.