maratc

I'd guess they are either before children, after children (teenagers can get themselves ready), or in a situation where their families provide some help — a spouse with a different schedule, grandparents, older children taking care of the younger ones, etc.

The closest answer to your question is probably: Malaysia.

Of course there is no such thing as "summer" or "winter" in Malaysia, as they are pretty close to the equator. For the same reason, they have about 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness — every day, every season. In this situation, the reasonable options for setting clocks with regards to sunlight are either 6-18, or 7-19. Malaysia went with 7-19 option. "Solar noon" happens in Kuala Lumpur around 13:10, with the earliest at 12:56 (beginning of November) and the latest at 13:27 (middle of February).

> I suggest you take the bus or the metro once at 5 in the morning.

In order to do that I would need to drop the kids at 4:50 at the (closed) doors of the school, and it will end very badly very quickly.

> start at 6 so that they can finish work before citizens start calling

How happy you must be to live in a country where you can (still) simply call your public services.

Most working adults are also parents, and so their working hours are wrapped around the daycare hours.

In any case, you’re talking about a societal change which is much broader than just a clock-setting issue.

Not sure why you're wearing a watch then? You can just look outside.

I need a watch because the kids start school at 8, so they need to be up at 7. This is true whether the sun is already up (June) or not (December.)

> there is a case to be made for a timezone split between northern Europe and southern Europe

There absolutely is. The north is getting very little sun in the winter (about 6 hours) and very much in the summer (about 19 hours), while the south has a lot less variance (10 vs 14 hrs for south of Spain.) My argument would be that the south needs DST more than the north.

You haven't "solved" anything, as the position of the sun is not more relevant to the modern lifestyle than the phase of the moon. It's "good to know" I guess but solves no actual issue.

You can take it in any direction you want, but I have pretty low expectations of schools willing to teach my kids from 10 to 16, or mechanics willing to fix my car at 20, or doctors willing to take my blood exam at 22 — all that just because that would be convenient for me.

The modern society started with the Industrial Revolution, when the people understood that there are some very tangible benefits when everyone starts working at the same hour, and started building around that. This building included discarding "local time" (an astronomical fact) in favour of standard time (social contract.)

It only works when you don't have children (kindergartens and schools start at 8) or spouse (who can have a different schedule) or office work (so you don't have to be at the office at 9.)

Time has stopped being an astronomical fact, and is a social contract nowadays. It's possible that you can afford to opt out of that contract, but most people can't.

You might have heard of this "sovereignty" movement: sovereign OS, sovereign cloud, sovereign AI?

One man's "little known company with no cybersecurity muscle" is another one's "sovereign certificate infrastructure."

> sued into oblivion

Being bad at choosing random numbers is not a crime, I am afraid.

I can imagine them being sued for "securities fraud" (as Matt Levine suggests) but only if they were a US publicly traded company.

The horse population in the US has dropped by more than 70% in the last 100 years (21M to 6.6M). In the same timeframe, the human population has increased 320% (105M to 320M), so the drop in "relative horses" is from 0.20 horse per human to 0.02 horse per human, or 90%.

How cool are you with the odds of your entire family surviving the next 100 years standing at about 10%?

Where possible I do, of course, but some compute resources either don't allow to ssh in (e.g. k8s) or are configured to refuse ssh from anyone but root. I can become root on a jump box and ssh from there, but I lose agent forwarding in the process.

This works for some scenarios but not other ones. I, for one, deal with ephemeral VMs.