lxe
Joined 14 years ago
Joined 14 years ago
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I've been iterating on this writing clarity prompt. The term we came up with was "Asyndetic parataxis with referential ellipsis and repeated rhetorical closure." It doesn't fully describe the exact issue I have with modern AI writing, but it's close.
Also the distillation attacks and other distillation methods that gather chain of thought information from frontier models are also used to generate vast amounts of data in order to generate synthetic datasets to post-train what I believe is the vast majority of models that are being released.
If you look at any information about how these models are trained, the details about how the data has been synthesized, where the agentic traces come from that are used in post-training, etc., they almost never tell you about exactly what model was used to generate them.
The moat is custom inference hardware, lower power, higher throughput, etc.
Perplexity looks bad and unsloth just did some good quants but they don’t perform as good on my asymmetric old dual 3090 box.
However, actual quality evals show literally zero degradation in “hard math” questions against full hosted model at a cost of 1.5x - 2x CoT tokens. I expect other quants to suffer from this too. This behavior seems to decrease as precision increases. I also suspect it’s the specific tuning a what experts I’m picking.
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